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Old 01-10-2010, 01:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
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i am interested to see if the japanese fans will like Tim Sylvia. He is a big freak which they love, but he is boring as shit, which they dont. Hmmm.....I actually think they will like him
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:32 PM   #32 (permalink)
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So your saying that Nacho Berinstain couldnt have trained Manny to what he is today.....if so....then you sir are wrong....

make sure you understand the subject, he never trained 17 fighters to titles, hell he trainned tyson for the freak show in Memphis.....

I know he has a lot of talent as a manager all the acclaim he has gotten from manny would have come to ny guy that trained him PERIOD....if you cant see natural talent when its there then you sir are the one who is wrong...

I like Freddie but the Mayweathers, berinstain, emaunuel lewis are all better trainers IMO....

If they has Manny he would be what he is today.....thats the point...


Sorry for the bad spelling in rush....

I never said Manny wouldn't have advanced to the level he is at today if he trained entirely under Nacho. You just tossed that assumption up from nowhere.

I am aware he never trained 17 fighters entirely for titles, if you even read my post, I said the fighters that he trained wouldn't return to him if he didn't make a big impact on their game.

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Freddie Roach is who he is mainly cuz of Manny.
IMO Freddie Roach is who he is because of the stable of fighters that he trains, be it intermittently or regulars. This is a conversation we could be having about Lidell's trainer, certainly not Freddie Roach.

I don't really bother debating with you CC because you write your posts as if they are fact. Then you question the other persons knowledge on the subject. This is your trademark debating platform.
All the "you sir are wrong" references get old very fast, hell lets throw in a for the record. Happens in numerous threads, I can't even be bothered reading it.

Now you will come in with your hands in the air "why are you attacking me"

I am not, I am just pointing out it's pointless debating with you, I know other people in the past have had the exact same problem.
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:45 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I hate to disagree with that but I do.....Period Mayweather has been trained since he was like 3 by Floyd 1st till Floyds wife had a boyfriend that was gonna shoot floyd Sr. so Sr. picked up junior and held him in fron of himself and told the boyfriend to shot him now....well the boyfriend shot Floyd Senior in the theigh basically ending his career....Floyd focused on Jr then till they had a dispute and Roger took over...point is Freddie doesnt work the same style or pace as the Mayweather's have trained Floyd, not saying Manny doesnt have those skills, but that Manny naturally has more talent IMO....

Thats why you see Floyd doing this blood testing crap...he knows Manny may be too fast for him...Roach didnt teach that speed....nor does Roach encourage as much head movement out of his fighters....

I dont dislike Freddie Roach at all....just sayin..
pretty boy is the fastest footwork and hands ive ever seen, he just lacks power. He also has a boxing mind that is supernatural when it comes to defense and angles. He will UD manny, he is saying the drug thing cuz alot of ppl think manny is on drugs ,point blank

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Old 01-11-2010, 12:20 AM   #34 (permalink)
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LOL this thread seems to have ventured beyond the topic.

I think that Arlovski and Sylvia will do great things in Dream! I just hope that Sylvia takes fighting seriously again and gets back into fighting shape.
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:21 AM   #35 (permalink)
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pretty boy is the fastest footwork and hands ive ever seen, he just lacks power. He also has a boxing mind that is supernatural when it comes to defense and angles. He will UD manny, he is saying the drug thing cuz alot of ppl think manny is on drugs ,point blank

meanwhile Manny signed to fight in march already....i think Floyd is great I just think he may not be able to handle that initial onslaught and i haven't pondered the fight too much cuz i didn't see it happening but the foot work head movement and hand speed are right at the top with Floyd the only hand speed i have seen that rivals it is Manny's and people here including me think Floyd knows and is perhaps reluctant because of it...
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Old 01-11-2010, 01:42 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Timmy is gonna get tooled in Japan and disappear for good.. AA I think will revive his career there. Hopefully.
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:15 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Timmy is gonna get tooled in Japan and disappear for good.. AA I think will revive his career there. Hopefully.
Yeah I hope AA can get back on track, he can still be a force, just needs to keep that chin tucked!
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