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Old 02-23-2011, 12:46 PM   #71 (permalink)
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That is how it used to be in America about ten years ago. I can definately see how MMA isn't mainstream. ESPN exposure is good though!
the ESPN exposure is great, although it would have been better if SKY SPORTS had bought the rights (as it is a far more established channel and has many more subscribers)

UFC is growing (mma in general too, we have BAMMA and have had the likes of Cage Rage and Cage Warriors which have played their role in the development of UK MMA.)

I hope it continues to progress and one day will surpass boxing as the UK's favourite fighting sport (my own opinion is that MMA is a lot more entertaining and complete sport than boxing, but I agree there is a market for both and room for each to thrive)

I see no real reason for the MMA growth in UK not to mirror that in the States, especially if UFC keep pumping money into promoting the sport here and putting on shows here (I agree that in general the sport would need continued and greater success of UK fighters to really attract attention and break into the mainstream)

This could well happen in the future, kids are certainly a lot more into mma than they were 10 years ago and it stands to reason that the more kids are training to become mma fighters from young the more we will develop successful fighters who can compete at the elite levels.

One worry is the real lack of quality Wrestling background here (and teaching there of) you only have to look at how Semtex Daley was dominated by Koshcheck to see we are lacking in that department.

The quality of boxing training here is more established and consequently 'better' than that of our mma coaching (and the indivdual disicplines within) but as interest improves so will demand and eventually so will the quality and ease of access of our teaching/coaching for the kids who have an interest in the sport and hopefully this will equate to a long term rise in the success of UK fighters and as a result interest in mma in the UK.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:46 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Wait, ESPN isn't an established channel in the UK? Yeah, Cage Rage and Cage Warriors certainly served their purpose. I think the UFC is pretty established if they have a UK president!
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:04 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Wait, ESPN isn't an established channel in the UK? Yeah, Cage Rage and Cage Warriors certainly served their purpose. I think the UFC is pretty established if they have a UK president!
ESPN only recently bought out IRish based satellite channel Setanta which basically over spent in an attempt to compete with sky (owned by Murdoch who owns FOX in america) which is a long running and far more established company and Setanta ended up going bust as a result.

ESPN is as a result a very new channel in the UK although obviously being owned by Disney it has the money to be a more stable and long term competitor to sky.

(it can be view via SKY but requires an additional subscrition)

Put it this way, the number of UK house holds with Sky Sports packages dwarfs that of the households who have ESPN (although it is currently available free for views with Virgin media...the Richard Branson branded cable tv provider)

Yes the UFC has made great inroads here, it has a growing market share of the UK sport viewing market (probably on a par with other American sports like NBA and NFL) but it is still considered a niche market at this time.
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Oh Setanta was a British company? I thought it was a Canadian channel. So ESPN bought them out and is competing with a Fox channel basically?
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Oh Setanta was a British company? I thought it was a Canadian channel. So ESPN bought them out and is competing with a Fox channel basically?
Setanta Sports was born in Dublin Ireland (not British) the UK version of Setanta failed to compete with SKY and over stretched themselves by paying big money for the rights to English Rugby, UFC and mostly a numbers of English PRemier League football games (soccer)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setanta_Sports

ESPN bought out the UK version of Setanta (who's parent company is the Irish original company because they were losing money and basically went bust over here.

ESPN does compete with SKY yes, in as far as sky is televsion broadcaster here which also has several of its on channels that produce shows and what not. Sky Sports (there are about 4 Sky Sports channels) have to be bought as part of a Sky tv package if you want to watch them, the same goes for ESPN you can by ESPN in addition to SKY and watch both via your SKY tv satillite dish or via Virgin cable (sky also sell the rights to their shows SKy Movies/Sky Sports/FX channels etc) and both sky and cable show other network channels such as CNN etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sky_Broadcasting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN_(UK)

So ESPN can be bought alongside skysports and it has the advantage of being free to Virgin Media viewers. BSKYB however is by far the biggest and most established television provider here in the UK and it's sports channel package is also far more established than espn (it's hard to compete as these packages are expensive already so a lot of people won't/can't pay to have both channels)

The difference this time is ESPN are a massive company, owned by Disney so their money is not going to run out and they can afford to stick around until they gain sufficent market share to become a profitable channel/company here in UK. Which I believe they will, especially if the UFC continues it's current growth and they continue to invest in packages to show Premier league football matches and other sports people want to see.
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So Setanta went for some big names out there and it backfired. Then ESPN saw an oppurtunity and jumped on it. Sounds good!
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