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Old 02-17-2011, 02:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Kickboxing is just like boxing, inferior and yawn. Hope the UFC picks up remmy so we can see him get beat up one side of the cage and down the other, over hyped and under talented sums up k1 rather well.
What an ignorant comment
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Old 02-17-2011, 04:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Just found the original interview where he mentioned this:




Talk about the state of JMMA comes just after 4:20.
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Old 02-17-2011, 10:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You saying so means what? Its not your opinion but its anything but ignorant, I was watching crocop in K1 wile you were probably in junior high.

Regardless kickboxing is only one aspect of fighting and therefore a less complete sport than MMA. You can argue a opinion or you could even come at it from the angle that its a specialized combat sport as Ive seen people do with boxing.

I like MMA because it's the most accurate depiction of a real fight, and real fights hit the ground 90% of the time.

Above that K1 seems to always have a lot of out of shape fighters who IMO pad some records and the intensity is just not there at least for me. Seems to always be some major hugging going on and all in all Ive just found the athletes in K1 to be the least well athletic of most pro combat sports.

I can say I truly dont get why people will say "well UFC fighters are not at the same level of striking as K1 fighters", Its something Rogan has tried to point out like he's saying something important. Well Id hope so I mean if all you do is strike you sure as hell should be better right? But if you look at the average fighter in the UFC not the best strikers or the worst just the median the gap between K1 and UFC fighters is really not that huge considering MMA fighters have a lot more to cram into their training and lets not forget the differences between the two sports K1 10 oz gloves MMA 4 oz gloves, its just different you cant even strike the same way or use the same stance in mma as you would in boxing or K1.

I was a fan in the past but as soon as pride hit I stopped watching. Kickboxing is great in a ring but its still less of a spectrum.
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Just found the original interview where he mentioned this:




Talk about the state of JMMA comes just after 4:20.
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Old 02-18-2011, 09:08 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You saying so means what? Its not your opinion but its anything but ignorant, I was watching crocop in K1 wile you were probably in junior high.

Regardless kickboxing is only one aspect of fighting and therefore a less complete sport than MMA. You can argue a opinion or you could even come at it from the angle that its a specialized combat sport as Ive seen people do with boxing.

I like MMA because it's the most accurate depiction of a real fight, and real fights hit the ground 90% of the time.

Above that K1 seems to always have a lot of out of shape fighters who IMO pad some records and the intensity is just not there at least for me. Seems to always be some major hugging going on and all in all Ive just found the athletes in K1 to be the least well athletic of most pro combat sports.

I can say I truly dont get why people will say "well UFC fighters are not at the same level of striking as K1 fighters", Its something Rogan has tried to point out like he's saying something important. Well Id hope so I mean if all you do is strike you sure as hell should be better right? But if you look at the average fighter in the UFC not the best strikers or the worst just the median the gap between K1 and UFC fighters is really not that huge considering MMA fighters have a lot more to cram into their training and lets not forget the differences between the two sports K1 10 oz gloves MMA 4 oz gloves, its just different you cant even strike the same way or use the same stance in mma as you would in boxing or K1.

I was a fan in the past but as soon as pride hit I stopped watching. Kickboxing is great in a ring but its still less of a spectrum.
Your previous comment was ignorant and this one is irrelevant. They are two different sports and you of all people should know this considering you've been watching K1 since I was in junior high.
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What I don't get is how they lose money when they have 50,000 spectators. Wonder what their PPVs are. They should be getting huge sponsors like Toyota, Honda, Asahi, or some corporate title sponsor.

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