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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-18-2007, 01:09 AM Thread Starter
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IFL vs UFC

Well everyone compares UFC and Pride, but i want to know how IFL matches up to UFC. personally, if they was elbows allowed i think it would be better.

As for the fighters how do they match up wiht UFC fighters, could any contend? Im sure Ben Rothwell could do well in the HW divsion in the UFC.


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UFC would sign these guys if they were good enough to consistently compete at a high level.
It's a different concept than KOTC, ROTR, CR and others, but it's still the minor leagues. They certainly have the advantage to train and learn with/from the best (legendary coaches) and that for me is key to success along with work ethic.
Give them time, and some of the guys are gonna make it to the big stage.
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post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-27-2007, 10:26 AM
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but it seems like these guys dont intend on defecting frm the IFL, they have a real concept as a whole to make that leauge work.

I think a lot of these fighters could hang in the UFC.
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I watched the IFL fights on Fox Sports New York last night. I take back my comment.. SOME of these guys can hang in the UFC, not A LOT of them.
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My Moneys on Matt Lindland. He's an IFl'er that could take out most of the people in his weight class in the UFC....(and has in the past).

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Matt Lindland is no doubt the best fighter IFL will see in the upcoming year. His defeat over Jeremy Horn was very impressive
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i like IFL but ufc takes the cake
they make like millions on pay per view
and also there signing some of the best mma fighters

but IFL is crazy too i like the team thing
and also they have my hommie pat
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I must state my opinion in the matter here. IFL is boring to me. It's basically kickboxing, no more no less. There are no takedowns, no elbows and no leg kicks allowed unless they are the start of finish of a combination. This results in no ground and pound, no submissions, no dirty boxing etc.......and with kickboxing you at least can clinch and do some dirty boxing . I'm not in anyway, shape or form saying that kickboxing is boring, I happen to think quite the opposite. But if I want to watch kickboxing........I'll watch kickboxing! not an MMA event. There are a few fighters in IFL that could make it in the UFC and Pride, ahem, again I put emphasis on the word "few". I've seen underground fights, 12 year old 110lbs Thai kids that could take out several of these IFL guys. I don't like to end things on a negative note so......GO FRANKLIN!!!!!!!!!This is my $.o2

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I must state my opinion in the matter here. IFL is boring to me. It's basically kickboxing, no more no less. There are no takedowns, no elbows and no leg kicks allowed unless they are the start of finish of a combination. This results in no ground and pound, no submissions, no dirty boxing etc.......and with kickboxing you at least can clinch and do some dirty boxing . I'm not in anyway, shape or form saying that kickboxing is boring, I happen to think quite the opposite. But if I want to watch kickboxing........I'll watch kickboxing! not an MMA event. There are a few fighters in IFL that could make it in the UFC and Pride, ahem, again I put emphasis on the word "few". I've seen underground fights, 12 year old 110lbs Thai kids that could take out several of these IFL guys. I don't like to end things on a negative note so......GO FRANKLIN!!!!!!!!!This is my $.o2
Where did you get the info, of no leg kicks, no takedowns unless they lead to a combo thing... the only info I got from IFL is "To promote the best, most exciting, and fairest matches possible, we’ve outlawed the use of such techniques as elbow strikes to the head, which commonly result in fight ending cuts before the outcome has been legitimately decided by the fighters.
The IFL rules also prohibit: kicking the head of a downed opponent, head-butting, groin strikes, eye-gouging, strikes to the spine or back of the head, and other techniques deemed needlessly brutal or dishonorable."

Nothing about leg kicks or takedowns that dont lead to submissions... Ive seen two episodes of it so far, and it seems okay... Not the best organized and I think for the most part the refs kinda suck.

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Where did you get the info, of no leg kicks, no takedowns unless they lead to a combo thing... the only info I got from IFL is "To promote the best, most exciting, and fairest matches possible, we’ve outlawed the use of such techniques as elbow strikes to the head, which commonly result in fight ending cuts before the outcome has been legitimately decided by the fighters.
The IFL rules also prohibit: kicking the head of a downed opponent, head-butting, groin strikes, eye-gouging, strikes to the spine or back of the head, and other techniques deemed needlessly brutal or dishonorable."

Nothing about leg kicks or takedowns that dont lead to submissions... Ive seen two episodes of it so far, and it seems okay... Not the best organized and I think for the most part the refs kinda suck.
The elbow thing I can kind of agree with but not totally because cuts can still happen with punches. The rest of it is mostly I think (and please correct me if I am wrong as I am still kinda new to the sport) is how states want it. I find it strange you can kick a downed opponent in Japanese PRIDE but not here in the states I think it makes for a better show. And I have only seen half of a show last night and guys were getting taken down and GnPing all they wanted. Finally, the refs are the again who the state commission chooses to work the event so if they suck talk to Athletic Board where they are. Back on topic....

I don't think many of them could hang in the UFC right now. With some more training maybe. If any team could maybe it probably be Pat's team and maybe Frye's but I have yet to see Frye's team compete so I am basing that off thier coach.

As I was typing this I was wondering if maybe UFC could send over a "team" or squad to maybe compete but I know it couldn't happen what with egos and Pat wouldn't give up any of his guys.
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