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K-1 Grand Prix K-1 is a combat sport that combines stand up techniques from Muay Thai, Karate, Savate, San shou, Kickboxing and traditional Boxing to determine the single best stand-up fighter in the world (the "1").

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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 06-12-2008, 07:55 PM
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Me too, I enjoy MMA for the all around competition of it and the dedication it requires in so many disciplines but Kickboxing and boxing ( before boxing sucked ) are really what I loved first. I never kickboxed but I used to box when I was younger. My dad and my grandfather both boxed in the Marine Corps so I grew up with it. My dad used to love watching kickboxing too so I used to watch that with him along with boxing.

My dad used to get these shitty bootleg copies on VHS of kickboxing and Muay Thai fights. One of his Vietnam vet buddies stayed in Asia after the war and they kept in touch so he would send them. I remember getting so excited when a batch of them came over. It was like Christmas to me! haha



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i think you guys are being harsh on mma guys here, if a striker is a world class striker in mma then he should be compared to other mma guys, not top k-1 guys ect.

btw im not saying they are going to beat guys like Aerts, Hug, Hoost, JLB, Bonjasky, Sefo because clearly these guys destroy them but its mma so they should be compared to other guys in mma, btw i know a few k-1 guys have dabled but really there still k-1 guys.

i just dont like how often the terms thrown around on avergae strikers, though because ive watched kickboxing ym standards are probs higher i rank world class strikers by how far above their competition they are


btw who do you consider world class in mma. A Silva is just miles ahead of his competition and he would get the nod from me. BJ has heavy hands and great timing. tbh there arent alot of other guys i would mention atm mma is filled with good strikers and great grapplers atm and its pretty hard to consider guys like wandy great strikers from a technical standpoint (i love watching it but dont know exactly what to call it, his style works though) for effectiveness i guess him and chuck cd get a nod.
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The only real world class strikers in MMA right now in my opinion are Crocop, Paul Daley, annndd I guess A. Silva, other than that, there really isn't much more.
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yeah i left mirko off beacause he was kinda going agaisnt the point i was making, for all intents and purposes he is a K-1 guy who successfully went into mma. also i was kinda trying to point out some guys i would consider world class that people were ignoring but when i went to do it there wasnt that many good strikers
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Yeah, lol that's the whole point of my post, I really can't find too many fighters that are world class strikers. I guess if we're just going with MMA, then A. Silva and Daley. But then again, that's because those guys are tried and tested Muay Thai fighters.

I used to think Jens Pulver was an excellent boxer. But I really can't come up with someone whos got world class hands and feet.
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I agree, CroCop is world class, Semtex is freakin awesome, A. Silva is on the verge.

I think that Manhoef is pretty handy too, what do you guys think?



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I am a big Duane Ludwig fan. He has great hands, kicks, knees, and technique. I still wouldnt call him world class though.
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Yeah, well like I and Duborg said, those guys are world class because they got their start in kickboxing. A.Silva did Muay Thai in Mecca, Crocop is crocop, Semtex is a Muay Thai champ, Manhoef as well does kickboxing.

I'm firing blanks trying to think of fighter who didn't start in kickboxing before they got to be great.
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The thing is if you are not 'world class' as a pure kickboxer you can still make your striking world class for your mma game. BJ Penn is an example of this and so is Anderson or even Liddell. They are some of the best strikers despite not being maybe the best kickboxers in the world. Not saying Chuck and Anderson are not good kickboxers but you know, not considered world class by many.
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Yeah, well like I and Duborg said, those guys are world class because they got their start in kickboxing. A.Silva did Muay Thai in Mecca, Crocop is crocop, Semtex is a Muay Thai champ, Manhoef as well does kickboxing.

I'm firing blanks trying to think of fighter who didn't start in kickboxing before they got to be great.
i was gna say thats true in every area though, but then i can think of great wrestlers who didnt start in college (gsp) and good bjj guys who arent blackbelts(hughes)
hell a bluebelt just subbed a blackbelt at ufc 85 (Burns triangled Roan Carneiro.) its actualy annoying me that i cant think of one
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