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post #11 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-01-2009, 07:07 PM
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Even if he is juicing, who cares? I mean, he's not cheating if he's fighting in Japan. All his other opponents are free to juice themselves.

Its just that while they'd come in juiced, Overeem would come in skilled and juiced, and would whomp them. You do what you gotta do, you know?


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There's no skill or talent in juicing. Yeah, it's free to use while fighting in Japan and Overeem is beast, but I guess it's a personal thing when it comes to athletes juicing.

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Yeah, but milkkid291, you're a smart fellow, you know that juice doesn't give you amazing striking ability. Alistair got his striking and ground skills by working hard. Is he juicing? Who knows, probably, but if he does it while fighting in Japan, then I don't see the huge deal. They don't test, so it's fair game. He's never failed a test while fighting in the states, so I can't call him a cheater and so forth, because he's not cheating.

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He fought in the USA a year ago and didn't test positive. So while he has gotten huge I think it's a bit unfair to talk like he's tested positive.
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Yeah, but milkkid291, you're a smart fellow, you know that juice doesn't give you amazing striking ability. Alistair got his striking and ground skills by working hard. Is he juicing? Who knows, probably, but if he does it while fighting in Japan, then I don't see the huge deal. They don't test, so it's fair game. He's never failed a test while fighting in the states, so I can't call him a cheater and so forth, because he's not cheating.
Oh no, I know that he has had amazing striking ability and all around MMA skills for awhile. You're right, he probably is juicing and all it's doing it giving him size, power, and muscle. It's also not illegal to do so in Japan, so if you want to, go right ahead.

To me, personally, it's just a shame to a MMA practitioner myself to see others use a shortcut to gain advantages in a fight.

Also, BBJD, he has passed a test in the U.S., but only testing once and knowing they do, it's pretty easy to make sure your cycle is clear before the test. Looking at that time line to me is kind of like looking at a rookie baseball card of Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, etc. etc. then looking at a card near the end of their career.

But, Damone you're right. To each his own.

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Ok well Thiago Alves has gotten huge lately, Brock is a giant, a bunch of guys are huge and while it's fine to suspect it's another thing to act like it's a fact.

Also I just remembered he has fought in the USA twice in the last 2 years he fought in Pride 33.
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You guys are pathetic!!!!!

HE HAS NEVER FAILED A DRUG TEST! Talk about guilty until proven innocent. Then after he proves himself innocent with every drug test he is still guilty.

******* pathetic!

Even if he did use steroids in Japan ITS ALLOWED!!! Then why were not all the fighters that used stomps, soccer kicks and knees to the head all called cheaters in PRIDE???? They are not cheaters because its allowed. Besides, it is obvious that most of you guys trashing Overeem have little to no knowledge of sterod and how they work, detection times and such. You are all victims of the mainstream media brainwashing it does. Just magically take steroids and you are invincible. Its so ******* pathetic. The more and more posts about accusing guys of cheated even though they have never been caught, complaining about late stoppages, early stoppages, also about Brock Lesnar being a piece of shit even though he ******* incredible considering he is still green. Some of you guys are are ******* cry babies. Like a bunch of women complaining at he hair salon. Get real.

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he is on roids . u cant even compare last years pic to what he loooks like now. in one more year he will be 265 pounds of pure muscle
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The reason I like Overeem is because he's always been a positive, and motivated guy. He has lost so many times, but he has never entered a slump like others IE. Crocop.

To me these pics just show that he's even more motivated to better himself as I'm not gonna accuse the guy of juicing (even though it looks like he does) because I have no facts.
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