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post #21 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-02-2009, 12:07 AM
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I agree Plazz I really like Overeem. He had some mental issues in his fighting game early on but he never stopped trying.
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Come on people, it's perfectly normal for a grown man to gain 35 pounds of muscle in 7 months

As Damone said, there's no drug that gives you solid standup and adequete submissions and shit is legal in Japan. However, his punches pack a lot more sting at 253 pounds. You don't get traps like those in less than a year without some help
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post #24 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-02-2009, 12:23 PM
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The guy has a massive frame. He's eating more and lifting loads of weights and he hasn't had to make 205 for a year.

To jump up and say he's on steroids without any proof if a bit silly.

It seems if someone is in decline that they used to be on roids and if someone is hitting their prime and on a roll that they must be juicing.

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The guy has a massive frame. He's eating more and lifting loads of weights and he hasn't had to make 205 for a year.

To jump up and say he's on steroids without any proof if a bit silly.

It seems if someone is in decline that they used to be on roids and if someone is hitting their prime and on a roll that they must be juicing.
Lets look at his face though since putting on this weight.








I don't really care that he is on roids, he can do what he wants since it's Japan, but you look at him then and now, it's pretty obvious something is helping him then just lifting weights and eating.

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I've never liked Overeem TBH but he's looked REALLY good since moving to HW. There's still slight question marks over his cardio and his heart when he gets in a bad spot for me but I've got him ranked as a top 5 HW right now.

I'm not gonna accuse him of juicing without proof although it looks pretty likely from the pics. I don't like steroids personaly but as people have said, he's not breaking any rules and his all round game has improved dramatically not just his physique. He was a pretty big imposing guy at 205 so the improvements been in his skills not his size IMO.
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Lets look at his face though since putting on this weight.








I don't really care that he is on roids, he can do what he wants since it's Japan, but you look at him then and now, it's pretty obvious something is helping him then just lifting weights and eating.
He went from looking like Robbie on the show Dinosaurs to looking like a T-Rex.



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Haha excellent that was the show when i was little to man great throwback right there.
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even on roids overeem will never beat fedor ...
man imagine fedor on roids lol fedor with 265 pounds of pure muscle
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I dont care either way really but the American testing system in MMA is a joke. Using the fact that a cat has passed tests there is kind of moot since theyre only done around fight time. Its way to easy to do a cycle then cease using it long enough before getting tested to dodge the system.

I personally think if you really want to get rid of steroids you need to start doing random testing year round.

Also Ive never been a huge anti steroid guy. Theirs a lot of bullshit floating around out there about most of the negative effects of them which havnt been proven. A good movie to watch about them is "Bigger, Stronger, Faster."

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