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K-1 Grand Prix K-1 is a combat sport that combines stand up techniques from Muay Thai, Karate, Savate, San shou, Kickboxing and traditional Boxing to determine the single best stand-up fighter in the world (the "1").

View Poll Results: Who wins the HW Grand Prix?

Mighty Mo 0 0%
Peter Aerts 1 2.50%
Semmy Schilt 10 25.00%
Kyotaro 0 0%
Gokhan Saki 1 2.50%
Daniel Ghita 2 5.00%
Alistair Overeem 25 62.50%
Tyrone Spong 1 2.50%
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:22 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Yeah, congrats to the reem, but he has to have had the easiest path to the crown in K1 history. In his first fight, he had trouble with Spong. Dont get me wrong, Spong is one of the most talented fighters on the planet, but he has not business fighting superheavyweights. In the Reems second fight, he faced an already broken Saki. Wow, he kicked Saki twice on his broken side. Congrats, he finished off what Ghita started. In the final, the reem finished off forty year old peter aerts who had a war with Semmy in his semi final fight and was barely approved to fight in the final. Aerts is a legend, but he clearly blew his load against Semmy. All that aside, lets just pretend that everyone had made it through with fewer injuries, two of the better fighters in K1 (in Remy's case, K1 history) were absent from the tournament (If you dont know anything about K1, im talking about Badr Hari and Remy Bonjasky). This was a weak year in K1 and Alistair was able to take advantage of other peoples hard fights. He couldnt even come close to finishing Spong (the same guy that Nathan Corbett kicked the shit out of and Saki KO'ed). Dont fool yourself folks, Overeem is nowhere near the best kickboxer on the planet, he just so happened to fall into a perfect scenario for himself. I would bet my left kidney that Saki could finish him if he were fresh.
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:20 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yeah, congrats to the reem, but he has to have had the easiest path to the crown in K1 history. In his first fight, he had trouble with Spong. Dont get me wrong, Spong is one of the most talented fighters on the planet, but he has not business fighting superheavyweights. In the Reems second fight, he faced an already broken Saki. Wow, he kicked Saki twice on his broken side. Congrats, he finished off what Ghita started. In the final, the reem finished off forty year old peter aerts who had a war with Semmy in his semi final fight and was barely approved to fight in the final. Aerts is a legend, but he clearly blew his load against Semmy. All that aside, lets just pretend that everyone had made it through with fewer injuries, two of the better fighters in K1 (in Remy's case, K1 history) were absent from the tournament (If you dont know anything about K1, im talking about Badr Hari and Remy Bonjasky). This was a weak year in K1 and Alistair was able to take advantage of other peoples hard fights. He couldnt even come close to finishing Spong (the same guy that Nathan Corbett kicked the shit out of and Saki KO'ed). Dont fool yourself folks, Overeem is nowhere near the best kickboxer on the planet, he just so happened to fall into a perfect scenario for himself. I would bet my left kidney that Saki could finish him if he were fresh.
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It was a really weak field but I don't think Overeem really had that much trouble with Spong who is all kinds of skilled and was really fired up. Overeem is just very patient and fights smart not giving his opponents many openings I don't think hardly any of those punches in the first got through. If Badr and Remy were in the field he wouldn't have won but all credit due he got through the tournament without really suffering much of any damage.

I think we all knew Saki and Ghita were going to beat on each other so badly whoever won was going to be done when the draw was announced but I am glad we got to see that fight.

Does anyone else find it odd that Teixeira getting his face caved in by Overeem apparently made his balls drop? He used to always *****foot around now he is taking it to guys and I thought he got robbed in the final 16 against Aerts.
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Im not blindly hating dude. Everything that I posted is fairly accurate. Saki hits like a truck and is extremely fast. The Reem doesnt have a great chin, Saki could def put him away if he were healthy.
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It was a really weak field but I don't think Overeem really had that much trouble with Spong who is all kinds of skilled and was really fired up. Overeem is just very patient and fights smart not giving his opponents many openings I don't think hardly any of those punches in the first got through. If Badr and Remy were in the field he wouldn't have won but all credit due he got through the tournament without really suffering much of any damage.

I think we all knew Saki and Ghita were going to beat on each other so badly whoever won was going to be done when the draw was announced but I am glad we got to see that fight.

Does anyone else find it odd that Teixeira getting his face caved in by Overeem apparently made his balls drop? He used to always *****foot around now he is taking it to guys and I thought he got robbed in the final 16 against Aerts.
Pretty much agree.
But, i think Overeem would have beaten Bonjasky no matter what.
With Hari, i have my doubt.
No matter how stupid or irational that guy sometimes acts, i consider him the best K1 fighter atm. When he's in-shape, motivated and focused, he looks like a beast.
Hari's main problem is his mind!

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Im not blindly hating dude. Everything that I posted is fairly accurate. Saki hits like a truck and is extremely fast. The Reem doesnt have a great chin, Saki could def put him away if he were healthy.
Look.
I'll admit to something.

If an in-shape motivated Badr hari would have participated in this tournament, he would have been my first choice.
And Overeem my second favorite to win it.

Schilt look like crap. Even in Final Elimination he didn't look that good. Fighters have learned to take the fight to Schilt, because that's his biggest weakness. If you let him dictate the pace you are pretty much done. If you start aggressively like Aerts or Hari, you have great chances of beating him.

Saki hits hard, no doubt. But he didn't hurt Overeem in this fight, With or without the injury, i still think Overeem would have beaten Saki on that night.
As far as Saki being damaged after the Ghita fight and Overeem being healthy and fresh: well excuse me!!! This is a pyramid tournament, 3 fights on one night. The main focus for one fighter is/should be winning the fight and taking minimal damage in the fights.
Saki had a war with Ghita. So what?! He should have been more careful and tried to win that fight, without getting his ribs and arms destroyed in the process.
Same goes for Aerts.

Overeem fights smart. He doesn't burn himself out, he is calculated and tries to inflict maximum damage with minimal effort. He took care of his body and energy level and ended up winning.

And it's not like he is the first GP Winner that took advantage of the other fighters burning themselves out: Ernesto Hoost won the 2002 tournament after losing in the quartefinals to Sapp and taking his place in the semis, Sapp being injured. And in the finals he beat LeBanner who broke his arm, just like Saki against Overeem.

What about Remy Bonjasky?! In 2008 he took advantage from LeBanner's arm injury in the QF, beat Saki in the SF, who AGAIN, cme in that fight beat-up and exhausted and in the Final it was that famous DQ of Hari for hitting a downed opponent.
Or in 2003, he had to beat Graham, Abidi and Musashi to win the tournament. Kinda easy!

Fact is!
This year's tournament benefited from the presence of the best fighters in the world, with 2 exceptions: Hari and Bonjasky.
Replace Kyotaro and Mo with these 2 and you have the perfect tournament.

I still think he would have beaten Bonjasky.
With Hari i don't know. That guy is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He can be amazing or a time bomb, ready to go off.
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