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Old 07-05-2012, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bat vs blade - the ultimate street fight question

Alright so it's 3am, I can't sleep and my mind starts working in ways it normally doesn't. At this point I just start to think about random scenarios and this one intruiged me the most, because I think it can go both ways. I'm sure it's an old discussion but I have never thought about it before. Here is the scenario:

You are set to fight another person to the death on a football field. You have never interacted with this person before, the only thing you know is that he/she is your gender, your age, your height, your weight, is as athletic as you and have all the same martial arts qualifications as you do. If you're a black belt in BJJ, he/she's a black belt in BJJ. In another words, if you two were to go fight in the octagon, the odds would be completely even, because no one of you have an edge on the other, it would be a true coinflip.

Here is the kicker though (as you might have expected by now). There are two weapons lying on the ground by your feet.



A standard Louisville slugger and a standard butterfly knife. Both have never been used before and are in mint condition. You are the lucky one and can pick the weapon you prefer for this deathmatch. The one you don't pick you have to throw over to your opponent and then it's game on.

What weapon do you choose? Why? How big of an advantage do you think you will get? What's your gameplan for the fight?
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bat, been there and done that.. Bat>Knife.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Bat, been there and done that.. Bat>Knife.
First reply and already first hand experience! Awesome. I would love to hear how this fight played out, and how long it went.

With a bat, wouldn't you be terribly nervous about missing your first swing though? If you swing and miss, you are in all kinds of trouble. If the guy with the knife can leap up and get you with a stab, it won't kill you right away, but it will surely hinder you big time.
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I've been attacked with a bat and I've been attacked with a knife.

I rushed the guy with the bat and kicked his ass.

Against a knife I spent 12 hours on an operating table having my guts cleaned and put back in place. The average adult has about 10 pints of blood in them. i was billed for 16. Knife wins.
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I've been attacked with a bat and I've been attacked with a knife.

I rushed the guy with the bat and kicked his ass.

Against a knife I spent 12 hours on an operating table having my guts cleaned and put back in place. Knife wins.
If you had had a bat when you attacked the guy with the knife that might not have happened. If I was unarmed I with you all the way.

And just because its a baseball bat you don't have to use it like your trying to hit a baseball. you tent to be a little cautious when the other guy has a knife ( or a broken wild turkey bottle)
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If you had had a bat when you attacked the guy with the knife that might not have happened. If I was unarmed I with you all the way.

And just because its a baseball bat you don't have to use it like your trying to hit a baseball. you tent to be a little cautious when the other guy has a knife ( or a broken wild turkey bottle)
you're right on all points. there are a million variables. The only correct answer, especially at my age, is to shoot both of those stupid sons of b*tches.
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And just because its a baseball bat you don't have to use it like your trying to hit a baseball. you tent to be a little cautious when the other guy has a knife ( or a broken wild turkey bottle)
The problem with that is that it's hard to generate power with a baseball bat it you are using, say only your forarms to swing. The knife fighter will surely not be incapacitated by a swort swing like that, and the fight will become something of a stalemate, which in my mind favours the knifeguy. All he is looking for is his opportunity to darth inside of the range of the bat and shank batguy in the stomach. Even though the batguy has the range and the power on his side, the knifeguy is in control of the fight, in my opinion. The batguy will have to think really hard about planting his feet and commiting to the blow, because he knows how fatal it is if he misses, or if he hits knifeguys arm or something. Sure, that will hurt a ton for knifeguy, but I think (not sure about this one) he will be able to keep his momentum going forward, get inside and shank him.

I'm leaning like 60/40 towards knife. I do think it's very close though, and I did change my mind several times before.
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you're right on all points. there are a million variables. The only correct answer, especially at my age, is to shoot both of those stupid sons of b*tches.
Exactly, I am to old for that shlt now.
and anyone with any sense carries a gun nowadays ...imo.
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The problem with that is that it's hard to generate power with a baseball bat it you are using, say only your forarms to swing. The knife fighter will surely not be incapacitated by a swort swing like that, and the fight will become something of a stalemate, which in my mind favours the knifeguy. All he is looking for is his opportunity to darth inside of the range of the bat and shank batguy in the stomach. Even though the batguy has the range and the power on his side, the knifeguy is in control of the fight, in my opinion. The batguy will have to think really hard about planting his feet and commiting to the blow, because he knows how fatal it is if he misses, or if he hits knifeguys arm or something. Sure, that will hurt a ton for knifeguy, but I think (not sure about this one) he will be able to keep his momentum going foreward, get inside and shank him.

I'm leaning like 60/40 towards knife. I do think it's very close though, and I did change my mind several times before.
Get a wiffle bat and have a friend get a magic marker to use as a knife and do your self a little exercise in bat/knife fighting and se what you think,,,,,you may be right.....but maybe not...
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I've been attacked with a bat and I've been attacked with a knife.

I rushed the guy with the bat and kicked his ass.

Against a knife I spent 12 hours on an operating table having my guts cleaned and put back in place. The average adult has about 10 pints of blood in them. i was billed for 16. Knife wins.
You're a crazy sob.
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