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Old 12-23-2012, 08:47 AM   #31 (permalink)
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But all too often when theres a serial attacker like sandy hook guy and dark knight rises guy, there's not a soul to fire back and stop the carnage.
Do you seriously think that if people in the audience at the dark knight rises assault were armed it would have been of any help in that situation¿ I mean seriously¿ In a dark movie theatre gun fire is opened, then more gun fire is opened. Panic breaks loose. How do you know, in a dark movie theatre where people run around in chaos, who the bad guy(s) are and who the good guy(s) are. How do the good guy(s) make sure that they don't hit innocent people¿

I mean, when you're on your lonely farm and there is some intruder who starts an attack, it's pretty clear who the bad guy is and who just defends his farm, but come on. Thinking that armed civilians would have been of any help in a chaotic movie theatre assault situation is just bad action movie fantasies.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:19 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Can I ask, and this isn't me trying to be a dick or anything but have any of you gun owners ever actually had to shoot another person?

I find it quite interesting that people who own guns say they do so for defence, which implies they have them to use on intruders/attackers but I'm intrigued to hear if you have ever actually had to use one. I find the thought of shooting someone quite scary and horrible to be honest and I am quite interested to hear what normal average Joes like myself would feel about killing or maiming someone? The way I hear Americans speak about it it seems to be quite matter of fact and just kinda "done". I'd have second thoughts about punching someone full force never mind firing at someone!
Never had to and hopefully never will. There are definitely Americans that seem to want to be in that situation though. These types aren't the funnest to shoot guns with

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Do you seriously think that if people in the audience at the dark knight rises assault were armed it would have been of any help in that situation¿ I mean seriously¿ In a dark movie theatre gun fire is opened, then more gun fire is opened. Panic breaks loose. How do you know, in a dark movie theatre where people run around in chaos, who the bad guy(s) are and who the good guy(s) are. How do the good guy(s) make sure that they don't hit innocent people¿

I mean, when you're on your lonely farm and there is some intruder who starts an attack, it's pretty clear who the bad guy is and who just defends his farm, but come on. Thinking that armed civilians would have been of any help in a chaotic movie theatre assault situation is just bad action movie fantasies.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/man-...th-one-bullet/
Strange how this story received next to zero publicity.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:08 AM   #33 (permalink)
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/man-...th-one-bullet/
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That's not an armed civilian and not part of the audience, but a particular trained person whose exact job it was to secure safety. So the incident is no argument for civilians to run around with guns, but the opposite. It's an argument that those situations are best solved by the police or other particularly trained forces.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:22 AM   #34 (permalink)
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That's not an armed civilian and not part of the audience, but a particular trained person whose exact job it was to secure safety. So the incident is no argument for civilians to run around with guns, but the opposite. It's an argument that those situations are best solved by the police or other particularly trained forces.
Tbh I couldn't find much of anything as far as theatre shootings. The case I linked is by far the closest thing. Sorry I couldn't find exactly what you were looking for. Here's a list of mass shootings from Columbine forward.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Columbine.html

Here's a list of civilians protecting themselves with firearms if you're interested.
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx

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Old 12-23-2012, 03:49 PM   #35 (permalink)
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It's not possible to have any meaninful gun control that doesn't include completely outlawing guns for citizens and going to every home and taking their guns, which isn't going to happen, ever. There are 0 laws that are realistically ever going to pass that will prevent mass shootings, it's part of the society right now.

You know how to help prevent mass shootings? Stop putting them on the news. Stop plastering the gunman's face on the news to get attention so that other crazy people think "now that's how I can get noticed, that's my ticket", stop talking about it on Facebook. People like this tend to want attention and all the media and citizens do is give it to them for weeks.

Also, it's not scary living in a society with guns for those who think it would be. In fact, if you live here you pretty much never think about it, the vast majority of people live full and healthy lives without ever being in gunfire or anything. Guns are just another freedom that American's have that let us own, collect, and have the rights to.
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