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Old 01-16-2013, 11:41 AM   #41 (permalink)
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So as a result of Sandy Hook we have this coordinated and hysterical campaign for gun laws - they kill children in schools to create the biggest possible emotional reaction.
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Who, specifically, is this "they" you speak of? Like, the "NWO"? The Illumati?

Ask yourself: would Obama, a hand-wringing, bleeding-heart liberal father with young children, engineer and authorize the slaughter of a bunch of American kids on American soil, just to further his agenda of removing gun ownership rights from American citizens?

That's seriously plausible to you?

Have you seen and/or heard his wife? She obviously wears the pants in that family. She'd snatch his nutz out and use them for dice if she found out he was involved in something as fundamentally evil as that.

Is the president making hay on his anti-gun agenda over this horrific event? Absolutely.

Did he hatch/authorize a plan to murder a shitload of America citizens at an elementary school?

I just can't get there...

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Old 01-16-2013, 12:03 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Who, specifically, is this "they" you speak of? Like, the "NWO"? The Illumati?

Ask yourself: would Obama, a hand-wringing, bleeding-heart liberal father with young children, engineer and authorize the slaughter of a bunch of American kids on American soil, just to further his agenda of removing gun ownership rights from American citizens?

That's seriously plausible to you?

Have you seen and/or heard his wife? She obviously wears the pants in that family. She'd snatch his nutz out and use them for dice if she found out he was involved in something as fundamentally evil as that.

Is the president making hay on his anti-gun agenda over this horrific event? Absolutely.

Did he hatch/authorize a plan to murder a shitload of America citizens at an elementary school?

I just can't get there...

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You mean the same president who has a known about "kill list." ?

The same president who assassinates people with drones?

The same president who signed into law the indefinite detention of citizens?

The same president who allows the NSA to continue to spy on the citizens and store all of their personal data?

The same president who allowed military grade assault rifles to be sold to drug cartels that kill tons of people?

The same president who has illegal taken military action against other countries that requires his impeachment and removal from office?

Yeah, hes a saint, would never do anything wrong.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:06 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Who, specifically, is this "they" you speak of? Like, the "NWO"? The Illumati?

Ask yourself: would Obama, a hand-wringing, bleeding-heart liberal father with young children, engineer and authorize the slaughter of a bunch of American kids on American soil, just to further his agenda of removing gun ownership rights from American citizens?

That's seriously plausible to you?

Have you seen and/or heard his wife? She obviously wears the pants in that family. She'd snatch his nutz out and use them for dice if she found out he was involved in something as fundamentally evil as that.

Is the president making hay on his anti-gun agenda over this horrific event? Absolutely.

Did he hatch/authorize a plan to murder a shitload of America citizens at an elementary school?

I just can't get there...

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Obama isn't engineering or co-ordinating any thing. It still amazes me that to this day people think that these "presidents" and "prime-ministers" are actually the ones running countries when the president before Obama - George Bush probably couldn't tie his own shoe laces, let alone run a bloody country. It still amazes me that in my own country, a lot of our people worship "our" German Royal Family, just absurd.

Obama is just a face, a mask, a puppet. The people really running the world and calling the shots stay in the shadows, out of sight, why would they reveal them selves? Most presidents that come to power are simply in that position because they are willing to follow any order and do any thing in order to further their own career-ladder climbing agenda. "Are you OK with staging a terrorist attack in order to start a war with another country and lying to the public"? "If it means I can be the president, sure, I'll do what ever you say Sir".

Obama is just another puppet following orders like the rest of them, with a screen in front of him where he can robotically read his words and speeches off to manipulate the minds of his citizens.

"CHANGE". On on and on he goes on about change yet he doesn't actually describe the content of the changes he's going to be making as a president.

No children were killed, that was my point. The entire thing was staged in an effort to aggressively change the gun laws in america which will ultimately lead to the enslavement of the people and true eradication of freedom.

Nothing is at it seems in this world, nothing.




Adolf Hitler: “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”

"CHANGE!"

To the people that refuse to believe our very own governments and military wouldn't dare use their powers AGAINST us, all you have to do is actually look back at real history and the facts. The few control the many, and that's all this entire world is about. Power, control, greed and corruption by the few that want to control the masses. And it's about god damn time we all woke up to this and truly started living freely, as our lives are meant to be lived.

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Old 01-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #45 (permalink)
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For early in the year i think the forum has the front runner for off mma topic / bat s**t crazy discussion. I mean it's interesting like watching the remnants of a house burning down are interesting. Macabre and yet how can one turn away. Beyond what the ufc does or says to Rhonda(or Pat B as someone else mentioned he re-twitted this as well) remains to be seen. I'm guessing a double standard.

Some that argue well during an mma debate sound a bit on the followed by but that's their opinion. Interesting stuff.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:20 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Really? Please tell me how you debunk parents LAUGHING and SMIRKING a day after their child died, asking if the camera's ready, then suddenly hyperventilating and prepping into a badly acted "sad" speech, still without managing a single tear:



Not a single one of these parents sheds a single tear.. ever. Just launch straight into gun control



Not even the president can manage one



And how about this amazing "Chief medical examiner"



Really, pray tell, just how did you debunk all of this? No video footage of the kids only pics, badly photoshopped family photos, ridiculous meth-head looking laughing emotionless actors posing as parents and medical personnel, pedophile looking witnesses that keep kids in their homes for 30 mins before calling 911, contradicting stories about the rifle being used, parents asking for "charity" money before the bodies of their children are even cold (heck some even before the actual event! But at least they deleted and re-created those pages) and launching into detailed gun control agendas that their "kids talked about"...

1984 has truly arrived.



Why is the motive sketchy? Disarm the people, then do whatever the hell you want with them ... overtax, make them serfs/slaves, poor, scared, stupid whatever. That's how every dictatorship or monarchy in history has ever worked, which is most of history. This has been happening slowly since 9/11, the bailouts and so on, the osama scare and "kill" without ever seeing the body or any footage because uh... that'd be disrespectful to the terrorist.. what else is new.

The economy has been crashed by wall street cokeheads playing roulette, then they all get bailouts and raises for it, coincidentally the entire federal administration is full of nothing but Goldman Sachs employees, the constitution and civil liberties are being slowly stripped away (Warrantless taps, arrests and indefinite detention of US citizens in Guantanamo etc.), the media is turned into paid propaganda and all owned by the same wall street guys hiding behind private companies and yet the motive is not clear? Read history.

I now feel bad for deriding Rousey. She knows the shit storm this will cause, the usual allegations of monstrous insensitivity and being a conspiracy theory nutjob. Yet she put it out publicly. That takes courage, just gained herself an unlikely fan.




How is it about THEM (the conspiracy theorists)? If anything, they receive nothing but ridicule and hate for their views, case in point your own post.

Why in the world would we want to make up all of this? Do you think we like the thought of being insensitive to parents who lost their kids? Do you think we like being laughed at? The last thing we want to do is hurt someone already hurt. Just LOOK AT the videos though! This was all on national TV! We didn't make it up.

This sort of thing has happened quite a few times before without gun legislation being a result of it.

If there's no legislation as a result of this the motive is sketchy.


Making some conspiracy that's it is a part of some long winded series of plans to destroy the second amendment isn't credible.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:27 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Yet Another Crazy Conspiracy Theory

This post pretty much sums up my feelings on the whole matter. It's insulting to the people who died, and the people who lost loved ones to think that any of this has been faked.
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No I am not going to take the time to watch the video, but I will say that like the saying goes "sometimes truth is stranger than fiction". Not saying the conspiracy is right, but one thing that "the cabal" has been wanting is for the US to become a gunless society.

The reason for the 2nd amendment isn't for hunting (or really even self defense over the average man), but to prevent tyranny from the government. I do not find it coincidence that as our economy and state of the country literally goes up in the crapper the last thing the government needs is an armed populace.

IMO it doesn't matter if a rep or dem is in office, the larger the federal government the less transparent they are and less freedom we have. Patriot Act, NDAA and several other acts has eroded our civil liberties little by little. I don't trust the government and with black ops and intelligence agencies, any atrocities are possible. Look up Bay of Pigs and Operation Northwoods as examples. Waco TX and what happened to the black panthers in the 60's and 70's are other examples.

Again I am NOT saying Sandy Hook was a conspiracy, but I do admire Ronda for having the balls to put her career on the line for something she feels strongly about (truth or fiction) because not many would do the same.
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I'm not firmly on the wagon but no govt apologist is going to debunk video and picture evidence I see with my own eyes that something is shady.


The thing with conspiracies is that some of it is spot on and rest is widely off the mark and easily discredited and "debunkers" pick the easiest stuff to defeat and discredit the rest.
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I'm not firmly on the wagon but no govt apologist is going to debunk video and picture evidence I see with my own eyes that something is shady.


The thing with conspiracies is that some of it is spot on and rest is widely off the mark and easily discredited and "debunkers" pick the easiest stuff to defeat and discredit the rest.
Right on point especially the last sentence. People also forget the media is bought and owned; hardly independent. When the media pushes an agenda (clear agenda is the discussion on gun control) I pay attention. Not the in the smoke and mirrors of their actual news pieces but rather to figure out whats behind the curtain.
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