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Old 04-08-2013, 01:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Upon further consideration, it'd be awesome if a mod could change the title to a simple "Margaret Thatcher passed away" or something a little more obvious to the content of the thread.
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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They only things I can really remember from her was.

Bad
  • Destruction of the working class
  • Stripped Unions of their power
  • Poll Tax
  • Not sure if it was her or John Major that sent troops to Iraq
Good
  • Took no shit from other world leaders
  • Told the SAS in the Iranian Embassy Crisis to kill everyone of the terrorists
  • Falklands War.
Are you crazy? What was good about that? You think she sent all those soldiers to their deaths for freedom? No, it was quite obviously for the oil reserves and to win the election. Every 'good' leader uses wars, false flag attacks and such as firepower to win them the next election. Dave Camerons doing the same now. He wants the Falkland War. Obama wants Iran. Angela Merkel wants any country that she can bully.

Also, French President Francois Mitterrand made a claim to his psychoanalyst during Britain’s Falkland Islands war with Argentina in the early 1980s:

Margaret Thatcher threatened to use nuclear weapons unless Mitterrand gave the British the "deactivate" codes used by anti-ship missiles that France had sold to Argentina!

Nice!
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Are you crazy? What was good about that? You think she sent all those soldiers to their deaths for freedom? No, it was quite obviously for the oil reserves and to win the election. Every 'good' leader uses wars, false flag attacks and such as firepower to win them the next election. Dave Camerons doing the same now. He wants the Falkland War. Obama wants Iran. Angela Merkel wants any country that she can bully.

Also, French President Francois Mitterrand made a claim to his psychoanalyst during Britain’s Falkland Islands war with Argentina in the early 1980s:

Margaret Thatcher threatened to use nuclear weapons unless Mitterrand gave the British the "deactivate" codes used by anti-ship missiles that France had sold to Argentina!

Nice!
Those people on the Falklands Island are British. Whats more they wanted to remain British.

Argentina invaded the Island, and despite what they claim, the Island does not belong to them.

Argentina knew what they were doing and knew it invading the Island would cause a war. It was a War they got, and they got their arses handed to them.

The war was just. How would you feel as a Brit on the Falklands as a load of Argentinian troops arrive, looking to change your way of life? If it were me I'd expect help from the homeland.

As the French thing - They were selling missiles to Argentina. France is supposed to be an ally, yeah cheers Mitterrand, nice one mate! Imagine the UK selling its arms to Vietnam during the war. I don;t think the US would have been too impressed.
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Hundreds strong street party in Glasgow, wish I was there.

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Hundreds strong street party in Glasgow, wish I was there.

http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/220638-c...ref_map=%5B%5D
Can't say I blame them, The Scots and North of England suffered the worst under Thatcher rule.
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That's why I still love this place. It's very educational for a dum ol country boy. I had no idea Thatcher was so unpopular in the UK.

Here, conservatives worshiped her and liberals were afraid to say anything against her and be labeled sexist.

Americans kind of put her right up there with Churchill as an example of British toughness.
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That's why I still love this place. It's very educational for a dum ol country boy. I had no idea Thatcher was so unpopular in the UK.

Here, conservatives worshiped her and liberals were afraid to say anything against her and be labeled sexist.

Americans kind of put her right up there with Churchill as an example of British toughness.
Canadians in my experience are largely the same way, the number of people over here who idolize her is astonishing. I like her for her fierceness, nothing else. She knew what she wanted, she went for it, and she got it. Gotta respect that, but that's where it ends for me.
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That's why I still love this place. It's very educational for a dum ol country boy. I had no idea Thatcher was so unpopular in the UK.

Here, conservatives worshiped her and liberals were afraid to say anything against her and be labeled sexist.

Americans kind of put her right up there with Churchill as an example of British toughness.
It depends who you speak to. The working class (low earners) of Britain tend to come from the North of England and Scotland. They despised her and you can't blame them, the countries most vulnerable got nothing but hardship from her conservative government.

Middle and upper classes seemed to thrive under her leadership. She was Prime Minister for 11 years and re-elected twice so some people must have liked her.

You and cowgirl are right about her toughness though. Nothing fazed her. She was known as the Iron Lady.
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Apartheid enthusiast and protector of Augusto Pinochet... Those are the two things I know about Thatcher.

Sure she's going to be missed by her loved ones though.
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Those people on the Falklands Island are British. Whats more they wanted to remain British.

Argentina invaded the Island, and despite what they claim, the Island does not belong to them.

Argentina knew what they were doing and knew it invading the Island would cause a war. It was a War they got, and they got their arses handed to them.

The war was just. How would you feel as a Brit on the Falklands as a load of Argentinian troops arrive, looking to change your way of life? If it were me I'd expect help from the homeland.
As the French thing - They were selling missiles to Argentina. France is supposed to be an ally, yeah cheers Mitterrand, nice one mate! Imagine the UK selling its arms to Vietnam during the war. I don;t think the US would have been too impressed.
There are other, more diplomatic ways to come to a solution. I reccomend a book called 'The Confessions of an Economic Hitman'. In it you see how the major powers in the world control other countries through debt, fear and isolation. War is another method of control, but is completely unnecessary. It costs lives. Ruins the lives of others. Modern wars happen for capital gain and nothing else. The Falklands, along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and others are orchestrated to line the pokets of the banksters. The only people who gain from war are the bankers! Every time.

You talk about France being an ally? In what sense? In that they are not an Arab or Asian country? In that we haven't been at war with them since Napolean was hanging around? A war, instigated by the Adam Weishaupt and the Bavarian Illumintai?

People talk about nations as seperate entities far too often. We are all people. All human beings. And we are all indoctrinated into believing in patriotism, believing in segregation, believeing that one race, colour, creed may be superior to another. And the powerful banking elite use this propaganda to instigate wars, merely for corporate and capital gain.

Think I've gone off the main point here so I'll stop.
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