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or b) does not care for their well being.
You care so much for her well being that you would travel back in time and make sure never have her?
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If my little girl grew up and got into the porn industry I wouldn't take it very well at all. I do everything I could to get her out of it, even if it meant getting violent with the male actors/directors/producers or whoever.

Other than her ending up as prostitute, I cannot think of anything worse. In fact if I had a crystal ball and could see my daughter doing anything like that, I'd invent a time machine, go back before she was born and cut my bollocks off to make sure it never happened.

Anyone who thinks they'd handle their daughter getting into porn either a) does not have a daughter or b) does not care for their well being.
In bold, I believe that is the key problem for dads. You forget that when your daughter is doing this, she is not "your little girl" anymore. She's an adult woman who has her whole life to decide on her own what she wants to do, and what she would be doing is not only perfectly legal, but has the potential to make her famous and make a lot of money. It might not be the most glamorous job in the world, but if that is what she wanted as an adult woman you'd rather go back in time and never give her life?

You will get violent with producers/actors of a perfectly legal, multi-billion dollar industry all because your adult daughter chose a career path that you don't personally agree with?

Also as Hex said, what if it was your son that went into porn? He gets to bang chicks all day and get paid for it, would you go beat up the producers/actresses to get him out of it, or would you let him do it as that's what he wants to do for a living.
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I think the hypocrisy of a dad toward a son compared to daughter is natural. I'm not saying it is right but I think it's just natural for people to feel that way. Being told by your son he lost his virginity and being told by your daughter doesn't really bring up the same emotions or reaction. It probably shouldn't be like that but it is. You always want to think of your daughter as "daddy's little girl". The main concern for you son in the same situation is getting the girl pregnant. Again, I'm not saying this hypocrisy is "right" but often times that is just the natural reaction.

EDIT: Also want to say I'm glad this thread was able to stay on track(so far) and remain a respectable conversation. I almost didn't post the thread because the subject can be risky and take a bad turn but it's just something that caught my interest when I heard it yesterday and responses I have heard since then.
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I think the hypocrisy of a dad toward a son compared to daughter is natural. I'm not saying it is right but I think it's just natural for people to feel that way. Being told by your son he lost his virginity and being told by your daughter doesn't really bring up the same emotions or reaction. It probably shouldn't be like that but it is. You always want to think of your daughter as "daddy's little girl". The main concern for you son in the same situation is getting the girl pregnant. Again, I'm not saying this hypocrisy is "right" but often times that is just the natural reaction.
I'm not sure "natural" is the word I'd use... "common" perhaps.

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A common misconception. There are many women in porn because they actually enjoy the work and had great upbringings. Porn is a work industry, not that different than any other. Many of them have perfectly happy, stable, mentally sound and enjoyable lives doing that type of work, and many have perfectly stable and happy relationships with their parents.

There are horror stories with porn and some women get into it for all the wrong reasons, but the question wasn't "your daughter doing porn because of an awful abusive childhood", it was just doing porn, of which many women do it because they want to and have perfectly happy/stable lives doing so.
All the ones that are very public are very screwed up, I am sorry I am just not buying it as being anymore than the very small minority who are not screwed up,even if you weren't a business that shady and with that percentage of screwed up people would be bound to screw you up. I am sure there are some happy prostitutes out there as well but the majority are sad and desperate.

Just so you know to there are countless people formerly connected to the industry who have openly questioned the validity of those studies and say that they are built on the lies porn stars say when in front of a camera.

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THE AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF A PORN STAR IS 36.2 YEARS 1
38 DRUG-RELATED DEATHS AMONG PORN STARS SINCE 2000 2
46 SUICIDES AMONG PORN STARS SINCE 2000 3
CHLAMYDIA AND GONORRHEA AMONG PERFORMERS IS 10X GREATER THAN THAT OF LA COUNTY 20-24 YEAR OLDS. 4
2,396 CASES OF CHLAMYDIA AND 1,389 CASES OF GONORRHEA REPORTED AMONG PERFORMERS SINCE 2004. 5
26 CASES OF HIV REPORTED BY ADULT INDUSTRY MEDICAL HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION (AIM), SINCE 2004. 6
66% - 100% PORN STARS HAVE HERPES, A NON-CURABLE DISEASE. 7
PORN PERFORMERS EXPERIENCE HIGHER RATES OF INFECTION (20%) THAN GENERAL PUBLIC (2.4%) 8
OVER 130 STRAIGHT AND GAY PERFORMERS DIED FROM AIDS. 9
121 PORN STARS DIED FROM AIDS, SUICIDE, HOMICIDE, DRUGS AND PREMATURE DEATHS SINCE 2007. 10
A RECENT CONTENT ANALYSIS OF THE 50 BEST-SELLING ADULT VIDEOS REVEALED THAT ACROSS ALL SCENES: 48 PERCENT OF THE 304 SCENES ANALYZED CONTAINED VERBAL AGGRESSION, WHILE MORE THAN 88 PERCENT SHOWED PHYSICAL AGGRESSION. 11
A RECENT CONTENT ANALYSIS OF THE 50 BEST-SELLING ADULT VIDEOS REVEALED THAT ACROSS ALL SCENES: 94 PERCENT OF AGGRESSIVE ACTS WERE COMMITTED AGAINST WOMEN
CHLAMYDIA AND GONORRHEA AMONG PERFORMERS IS 10X GREATER THAN THAT OF LA COUNTY 20-24 YEAR OLDS. 15
70% OF SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS IN THE PORN INDUSTRY OCCUR IN FEMALES ACCORDING TO COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES PUBLIC HEALTH. 16
https://www.shelleylubben.com/stats

I enjoy porn as much or more than anybody but enjoy it the same way you enjoy it the same way you enjoy your cheap shirt from walmart that was made by some 10 year old in a sweat shop. Forget about how it was made because its atrocious.




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I'm not sure "natural" is the word I'd use... "common" perhaps.
I see what you mean but I think natural is the perfect word choice. I just think it's the immediate reaction most men would have. Without thinking it through the first emotion you feel in that situation is likely to be different toward your daughter then it is your son. I think most fathers would just have that extra feeling of protection toward their daughter then their son.
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I'm glad this thread was able to stay on track(so far) and remain a respectable conversation. I almost didn't post the thread because the subject can be risky and take a bad turn.

naahhh this is easy. it's the important stuff we get carried away over. Stuff like who can beat up who... who has better cardio... these are risky subjects
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All the ones that are very public are very screwed up, I am sorry I am just not buying it as being anymore than the very small minority who are not screwed up,even if you weren't a business that shady and with that percentage of screwed up people would be bound to screw you up. I am sure there are some happy prostitutes out there as well but the majority are sad and desperate.

Just so you know to there are countless people formerly connected to the industry who have openly questioned the validity of those studies and say that they are built on the lies porn stars say when in front of a camera.

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I enjoy porn as much or more than anybody but enjoy it the same way you enjoy it the same way you enjoy your cheap shirt from walmart that was made by some 10 year old in a sweat shop. Forget about how it was made because its atrocious.
Do you honestly think those statistics stack up well against say, musicians? Pro Wrestlers? Actors? I can link you to statistics showing the top 20 suicide rates in the world and Porn isn't even close to touching it. Aggression/drugs? Ever seen behind the music? You are right on the STDs, people in that industry need to be careful.

Not all the public porn stars are messed up, no more than actors/musicians. There are Porn Stars that are in the news for bad things, almost (but not quite) as much as other celebrity careers.

There are always people "behind the scenes" in non-scientific studies that say whatever their opinion is or fill whatever agenda they wish to fill, it doesn't make their claim anymore accurate. Even so, I didn't mention the study as there are studies floating around for all sorts of things and most of them have to be taken with a grain of salt. I'm going by people I know who have been involved in that industry and the background history of many porn stars that show they never had any sort of bad childhood or abusive past, they just got into it as it felt like the right thing to do for them. The fact that there are studies showing that they are actually happy in general (again, grain of salt on everything regarding non-scientific studies) only helps what I am saying, even if minor.

If you are worried about "statistics", then never ever let your kid start singing or going to medical school, after all it has one of if not the highest suicide rates in the world.
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So what about sons doing porn? Just as upsetting?
Not as upsetting, but something I would not want him to be involved in. It's certainly nothing to be proud of.

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You care so much for her well being that you would travel back in time and make sure never have her?
Maybe I went a bit to far, but if possible I travel back in time and bring her up differently.

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In bold, I believe that is the key problem for dads. You forget that when your daughter is doing this, she is not "your little girl" anymore. She's an adult woman who has her whole life to decide on her own what she wants to do
Hmmm ask any dad who has a grown up daughter if she's his little girl and they will 'yes'

You know, I'll try to bring my daughter up with decency, standards, consideration and intelligence. If my daughter ended up a porn star I'd have failed as a parent. How many porn stars show any of the above qualities? How many porn stars think of their families when they decide that any old guy can **** them up their arse and cum on their faces, because Mommy n Daddy would be soooooo proud.

I enjoy the odd wank over a porn as much as the next guy, just as long as its someone else's daughter - thank you very much.

Four years ago I'd have probably agreed with most you. But as Old Fan said to me in a congratulation PM he sent me after my daughters birth - 'Everything changes'

Very true. So out of curiousity how many of you here think that being a porn star is an ok career choice for your your daughter - actually have a daughter?

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So what about sons doing porn? Just as upsetting?
Doesn't make a difference to me. Given the choice of gay daughter or porn star son, I'd pick gay daughter every time.



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