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Old 06-24-2007, 05:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I gotta say though when you said he uses facts to base his claims made me laugh so hard I think I pooped a little.
All I have to do in order to prove you wrong is give you ONE fact that Gore provided in his film and book. Here you go...
FACT: CO2 levels are higher than they ever have been in known history.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The FACT is that the facts tell a different story. CO2 levels on earth increase as a RESULT of global warming. Not the other way around. That, my friend, is a proven fact. But you won't hear it from Al Gore's mouth. Why? Because it's a fact. If you actually think Al Gore, the liar, is able to predict what the weather is gonna be like in 20 years, when meteorologists can't even correctly predict tomorrow's forecast correctly half the time, well....I don't know what to say other than you are just the kind of sheep Al Gore wants for his votes.
Wait a minute. If that were true, wouldn't that support my claim and disprove yours? I mean CO2 levels are extremely high, wouldn't that suggest that maybe global warming is there causing it?
Al Gore isn't trying to predict the weather. That would be stupid and it isn't realistic to claim that he is. He's predicting a climate shift. They aren't quite the same thing.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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All I have to do in order to prove you wrong is give you ONE fact that Gore provided in his film and book. Here you go...
FACT: CO2 levels are higher than they ever have been in known history.
Too bad that's not a fact man. Check out the Ordovician period, where earth's CO2 levels made up almost 50% of our atmosphere. Right now we are at a whopping .03%....that's not even close.

And even if it were true, that doesn't mean shit. Because the CO2 levels may be higher than any other time in recordable history, but the temperatures definately aren't. Check out the medieval warm period.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:44 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Wait a minute. If that were true, wouldn't that support my claim and disprove yours? I mean CO2 levels are extremely high, wouldn't that suggest that maybe global warming is there causing it?
Al Gore isn't trying to predict the weather. That would be stupid and it isn't realistic to claim that he is. He's predicting a climate shift. They aren't quite the same thing.
LOL, you are silly. Al Gore is claiming that CO2 is the cause of our hot weather. Ice core samples tell a different story. If Al Gore was preaching the right facts, then there would be no need to reduce CO2 emissions. His whole point is that our CO2 is causing the high temperatures. When in fact it is the opposite, our high temperature (caused by the SUN, imagine that) are causing CO2 from the oceans to evaporate into our atmosphere, thus causing higher levels of CO2.


Watch those videos I posted on the previous page.

And actually, Al Gore IS trying to predict the weather using climate models. He is saying stuff like "If we don't cut back our CO2 emmissions, in 20 years this will happen, or this will happen, blah blah blah"

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LOL, you are silly. Al Gore is claiming that CO2 is the cause of our hot weather. Ice core samples tell a different story. If Al Gore was preaching the right facts, then there would be no need to reduce CO2 emissions. His whole point is that our CO2 is causing the high temperatures. When in fact it is the opposite, our high temperature (caused by the SUN, imagine that) are causing CO2 from the oceans to evaporate into our atmosphere, thus causing higher levels of CO2.
Some scientists agree with what you are saying, but just as many, or more, disagree. You can't attack me for only listening to one side of the story if you are going to do the same thing. Obviously neither of us is going to change the other's beliefs so there is no point arguing (which is why I didn't comment on the Hilary communist thing). We'll have to wait and see, and I truly hope I am wrong.
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Also, let's not forget that the #1 greenhouse gas is water vapor. And it's #1 by a mile. I don't remember the exact numbers off-hand, but CO2 is nothing compared to water vapor when it comes to the greenhouse effect.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:10 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Some scientists agree with what you are saying, but just as many, or more, disagree. You can't attack me for only listening to one side of the story if you are going to do the same thing. Obviously neither of us is going to change the other's beliefs so there is no point arguing (which is why I didn't comment on the Hilary communist thing). We'll have to wait and see, and I truly hope I am wrong.
I've heard both sides of the story numerous times. And I'm not trying to attack you at all. I've been studying this topic for quite some time now. I used to believe what you believe, but after researching it for damn close to a year now I think, no wait, I KNOW Al Gore is pulling a fast one on us.

Some things to remember:

-Al Gore is the CEO of a company than sells "carbon credits" to people who need to use their private jets and don't want to commit to giving up CO2 producing things. Mostly celebrities and rich people. So what he does is they buy these carbon credits from him, for ridiculous amounts of money, so they can not feel so guilty about using their private jets everyday. Al Gore is making millions off of this scam.

-If Al Gore was so worried about global warming, why does he fly in his private jet everyday? Private jets produce more CO2 emissions in 1 single one-way trip than a Hummer does for an entire year. Also, Al Gore owns a Cadillac Escalade and drives it to his little global warming meetings. And his massive house in Tennessee uses as much energy in 1 day as an average house does in a month. Doesn't sound like he's too worried about the end of the world to me.

-Water vapor = #1 greenhouse gas

-Earth's atmosphere contains less than .04% CO2

-Ice core records show that historically CO2 levels increase AFTER a warming period, not before, not during.

-Al Gore uses classic propogandist techniques in his movie, by doing things like playing sappy or suspensful music, showing animations of polar bears drowning, showing animations of where the twin towers once stood and showing the ocean flood it over (making a connection between terrorism and global warming).


I don't really care if you wanna "believe" me or not. I've done a shitload of research and I know it seems like I'm attacking you but I'm just trying to put all that research to use. People need to know both sides. Not reading into both sides of a scientific theory goes against everything science stands for. You can't just hear one side and expect it to be the god's honest truth. Science is about questioning, and re-examining.


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