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post #31 of 82 (permalink) Old 07-02-2007, 04:36 PM
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dude, they didnt hang the nooses till after the incident, even then it might not of been the white kid that got jumped
"The incident capped months of escalating racial tensions at the high school that began after several white youths hung nooses from a tree in the school courtyard in a taunt aimed at blacks"

the black kids jumped the white kid in retaliation for the nuces.

It isn't clear or not if the black kids jumped the right kid.

Regardless, do you believe a 16 yr old kid should do 20 years for a fight where no real harm was done?
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these things happen, if the white kids started it then i suppose he did deserve a beating. If you do something that provokes someone, then..you're gonna get your ass beat.

And since he didn't even need medical attention..the black kids should just be charged for assault, and the white kid for public mischief.

These are just kids. And i'm not sure how things are in the usa, but in Canada, i've never heard of an under 17 kid charged with anything serious.
(i'm not saying that it hasn't happened, but nothing that really stands out)

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Its gotta be an obvious hate crime for that charge to be brought in. I live around an area that has a LOAD of arabic people. They actually call dearborn, michigan "Little lebanon". So in my school it was about 40% arabic and %60 white, black.......So believe me there was troubles. Our Whites versus arabics fights made it to the newspaper multiple times. So many brawls so many problems. But they fact that arabics stick together and come in groups it wasnt considered a hate crime. But it was, The way most full blooded arabics treat people sickened everyone and we had to do something. But in the same with the black kids beating the white kid. If one black guy has beef with a random white person and all around him are his black friends (not saying he has no white ones) thats just the fate of the day. the racial card has beened played so much its pulling teeth to have something like that be proved.
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these things happen, if the white kids started it then i suppose he did deserve a beating. If you do something that provokes someone, then..you're gonna get your ass beat.

And since he didn't even need medical attention..the black kids should just be charged for assault, and the white kid for public mischief.

These are just kids. And i'm not sure how things are in the usa, but in Canada, i've never heard of an under 17 kid charged with anything serious.
(i'm not saying that it hasn't happened, but nothing that really stands out)
It wasn't even this white kid who tied the nooses around the tree. I agree the kids who did tie them up deserve a beating but not a 6 to 1 fight, and then get kicked when hes unconcious. Just because he wasn't seriously hurt doesn't change the fact that he was attacked because hes white. The terrorist bombs that went off at the airport in scotland didn't hurt anybody so should their charges be reduced.
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I've given people history lessons before when I was called a Fenian.....a brief explanation of who they were, followed by the question of why they think it is offensive.
I didn't get a response.
thats awesome i'll do that next time someone calls me it again and see if i get a answer
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Rob i wouldn't want to see these kids be locked up for 100 yrs either but that wouldn't happen anyways. If they were charged with attempted murder and a hate crime they would probobley spend 15 - 20 yrs and that to me is acceptable and i would say the same thing if the attackers were white. Just because their kids doesn't mean they shouldn't face the consequences. what if it were you're kid that this happened to, would you just say suck it up ***** you deserved it even if he had nothing to do with the nooses.
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It wasn't even this white kid who tied the nooses around the tree. I agree the kids who did tie them up deserve a beating but not a 6 to 1 fight, and then get kicked when hes unconcious. Just because he wasn't seriously hurt doesn't change the fact that he was attacked because hes white. The terrorist bombs that went off at the airport in scotland didn't hurt anybody so should their charges be reduced.
If someone is unconcous and you want to kill them, then you will.

That bomb had intentions to kill people, there is no doubt. based on what i read the black kids did'nt try to kill the white kid.

How do you know that they jumped the wrong kid? it doesn't mention that in the article?


Do you think a 16 yr old should do life for beating up another kid, regardless of race or numbers?

How many incedents do you hear about Skinheads beating a black kid 6-1 and they usually cause permanent damage or death. are those people pussies?
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If someone is unconcous and you want to kill them, then you will.

That bomb had intentions to kill people, there is no doubt. based on what i read the black kids did'nt try to kill the white kid.

How do you know that they jumped the wrong kid? it doesn't mention that in the article?


Do you think a 16 yr old should do life for beating up another kid, regardless of race or numbers?

How many incedents do you hear about Skinheads beating a black kid 6-1 and they usually cause permanent damage or death. are those people pussies?
because if it was this kid who hung the nooses then the black kids would have said this is why we attacked him and it would be on the news, but i have heard on the news that this kid had nothing to do with the nooses being hung. And like i said i don't condone anyone being attacked 6 to 1 and if you do you're a p*ssy. Yes the kids should get a harsh sentence for what they did, they wouldn't spend the rest of their lives in prison even if convicted of a life sentence, they would probobley get out after 20 yrs or earlier.
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If someone is unconcous and you want to kill them, then you will.
maybe they weren't trying to kill him, but if 6 guys start kicking a unconcious person you're trying to really hurt the guy.
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Hate crime is a dumb law anyway, it's not fair when a white guy gets punished more harshly for a racist murder than a "regular" murder, and it wouldn't be fair for these kids to be punished more harshly for attacking the bitch cuz she's white as opposed to just attacking her for the **** of it.

Come on Craig you cant honestly want these kids to spend their lives in jail cuz of this?
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