Ferguson Missouri Is On Fire Again..... - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
The Lounge General off topic chat.

Reply

Old 11-25-2014, 01:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
-NOW YOU SLEEP-

 
_RIVAL_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Cal-State South Annex
Posts: 10,761
_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum
Ferguson Missouri Is On Fire Again.....

Quote:
The St. Louis area braced for another day of protests on Tuesday after a grand jury cleared a white police officer in the fatal August shooting of an unarmed black teenager, sparking a night of violent and racially charged rioting.

About a dozen buildings in suburban Ferguson, Missouri,

burned overnight and police fired tear gas and flash-bang canisters at protesters, said St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar. Sixty-one people were arrested, police said.













Although no serious injuries were reported, Belmar said the rioting on Monday night and early Tuesday morning was "much worse" than the disturbances that erupted in the immediate aftermath of the shooting of Michael Brown, 18, by police officer Darren Wilson on Aug. 9.

Protests also were staged on Monday night in New York, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, Oakland, California, and Washington, D.C., over a case that has highlighted long-standing racial tensions not just in predominantly black Ferguson but across the United States.

In the city of St. Louis, where windows were broken and traffic was briefly stopped on a major highway overnight, Police Chief Sam Dotson vowed to have a stronger police response on Tuesday night.

"A large presence, very early on, will be a deterrent," said Dotson, whose jurisdiction does not include Ferguson. "We'll have resources deployed."

Schools in Ferguson and its surrounding cities said they planned not to open on Tuesday and city offices in Ferguson were also closed. Protesters planned to demonstrate on Tuesday outside the courthouse in Clayton, Missouri, where the grand jury sat.

The rioting came despite calls for calm from officials ranging from Missouri Governor Jay Nixon to President Barack Obama. Activist leaders had spent weeks training protesters in non-violent civil disobedience techniques and police also had been through conflict de-escalation training, although tempers flared after crowds threw bricks at police and set patrol cars on fire following the grand jury's decision.

Officials disclosed that ruling well after sunset and hours after saying it was coming, a set of circumstances that led to protesters taking to the streets well after dark.

St. Louis police reported heavy gunfire late on Monday in the area near where Brown was slain but Belmar said officers did not fire a shot, even after they were pelted with rocks, bottles, batteries and other debris.


TWO SIDES OF TRAGEDY

Wilson could have faced charges ranging from involuntary manslaughter to first-degree murder and Brown's family said through their lawyers that they were "profoundly disappointed" by the grand jury's finding.

"They want the police to be held accountable, to treat us like Americans, too, so we can get equal justice," Brown family attorney Benjamin Crump said on CNN. "This system always allows police to hurt and kill our children. We've got to change that dynamic."

Brown's family planned to speak to reporters at 11 a.m. CST, Crump said.

Attorneys for Wilson, who was placed on administrative leave and has avoided the spotlight since the shooting, said he was following his training and the law when he shot Brown.

"We recognize that many people will want to second-guess the grand jury's decision," their statement said. "We would encourage anyone who wants to express an opinion do so in a respectful and peaceful manner."

Wilson told the grand jury that Brown had tried to grab his gun and he felt his life was in danger when he fired, according to documents released by prosecutors.

"I said, 'Get back or I'm going to shoot you,'" Wilson said, according to the documents. "He immediately grabs my gun and says, 'You are too much of a ***** to shoot me.'"


SEPARATE PROBE CONTINUES

The grand jury of nine whites and three blacks began meeting in late August and heard testimony from 60 witnesses called by the prosecution, including medical examiners who performed three autopsies, one by a private pathologist hired by Brown's family.

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch declined to say if the jury's decision was unanimous. At least nine jurors would have needed to agree on indictment.

A separate federal investigation into the shooting continues and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder emphasized the Justice Department investigators had not reached any conclusions.

McCulloch described a tangled mass of conflicting testimony about what happened in the shooting but said much of it did not square with physical evidence.

Lawyers for Brown's family say he was trying to surrender when he was shot while Wilson's supporters say the officer feared for his life and fired in self-defense.

Witnesses disagreed on whether Brown's hands were up at the time he was shot, McCulloch said, adding that Wilson shot at Brown 12 times. The final shot hit the top of his head.
Source ----------> http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0J80PR20141125
_RIVAL_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 11-25-2014, 01:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
Oax
MMA Fanatic
 
Oax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Blue Mountain State
Posts: 96
Oax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By AllOax Is Beloved By All
Sad stuff. I honestly haven't followed this case much so I can't really comment on it, but senseless violence really never solves anything and just creates more problems. There isn't any sense in setting innocent people's shops on fire and destroying their livelihoods.

Hopefully the city can recover from this and people can calm down and look at this situation with a level head even though it's a pretty hot issue.



__________________
Edgar - Machida - Cowboy
Oax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2014, 01:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
-NOW YOU SLEEP-

 
_RIVAL_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Cal-State South Annex
Posts: 10,761
_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum
They are rioting Ferguson because lives matter......

Unless of course that life is a small business owner whose livelihood was just torched to a smoldering ash heap..
__________________

----> WWW.MMAFORUM.COM <----



_RIVALS TOP 10

ANDERSON "THE SPIDER" SILVA
JAKE SHIELDS
NICK DIAZ
EDDIE ALVAREZ
JUNIOR "CIGANO" DOS SANTOS
GILBERT MELENDEZ
MAMED "THE CANNIBAL" KHALIDOV
HECTOR "SHANGO" LOMBARD
CAIN VELASQUEZ
GEGARD "THE DREAM CATCHER" MOUSASI
_RIVAL_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2014, 06:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
Ultra-weight
 
ClydebankBlitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 6,931
Blog Entries: 1
ClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings SystemClydebankBlitz Is Beyond A Rankings System
They are rioting in Ferguson because they are racists.

They wouldn't be rioting if a white teenager was shot by anyone. They are just too stupid to understand that they are racist.
__________________


MMA Forum Survival GP Season 5 Winner
VIP FFL 2013: 19th (Last) - 40 Points
ClydebankBlitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2014, 07:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
It's Hammer Time!
 
Hammerlock2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 9,561
Hammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemHammerlock2.0 Is Beyond A Rankings System
This is what is happening in Ferguson IMO. This is not just about the tragic shooting of some kid (which may or may not have been justified).



Althought it might be closer to this

__________________


Rookie Hammer Squad 2015
Frankie Edgar - Dominick Cruz - Jorge Masvidal - Cat Zingano - Holly Holm
Hammerlock2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2014, 01:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
Featherweight
 
Iuanes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,295
Iuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A Baller
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydebankBlitz View Post
They are rioting in Ferguson because they are racists.

They wouldn't be rioting if a white teenager was shot by anyone. They are just too stupid to understand that they are racist.
Arguably, if a white teenager had been shot, an investigation would have immediately been opened without the necessity of public pressure, and the cop might have been convicted.

Arguably.
Iuanes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2014, 03:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
-NOW YOU SLEEP-

 
_RIVAL_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Cal-State South Annex
Posts: 10,761
_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum_RIVAL_ Lord of The Forum
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuanes View Post
Arguably, if a white teenager had been shot, an investigation would have immediately been opened without the necessity of public pressure, and the cop might have been convicted.

Arguably.
Or not, there have been countless murders by police officers on caucasions that have not only the officers not been indicted but there was exactly ZERO public outrage.

The kid in question had just got done robbing a store... he played a stupid game and got a stupid prize IMO.

They are rioting because they are racist.
__________________

----> WWW.MMAFORUM.COM <----



_RIVALS TOP 10

ANDERSON "THE SPIDER" SILVA
JAKE SHIELDS
NICK DIAZ
EDDIE ALVAREZ
JUNIOR "CIGANO" DOS SANTOS
GILBERT MELENDEZ
MAMED "THE CANNIBAL" KHALIDOV
HECTOR "SHANGO" LOMBARD
CAIN VELASQUEZ
GEGARD "THE DREAM CATCHER" MOUSASI
_RIVAL_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2014, 04:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
Featherweight
 
Iuanes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,295
Iuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A BallerIuanes Is A Baller
Quote:
Originally Posted by _RIVAL_ View Post
Or not, there have been countless murders by police officers on caucasions that have not only the officers not been indicted but there was exactly ZERO public outrage.

The kid in question had just got done robbing a store... he played a stupid game and got a stupid prize IMO.

They are rioting because they are racist.
You could be right, I don't have the energy or interest to get into it. I'll just say that there's a lot more history to any of this than a shooting or shootings, which is not to justify or invalidate anyone's reactions.

Black or no, I find some of these shootings to be many times very unnecessary. There seems to be a shoot first and many times mentally, at the slightest provocation.
Iuanes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2014, 04:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
KO artist
 
Liddellianenko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 4,489
Liddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings SystemLiddellianenko Is Beyond A Rankings System
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuanes View Post
Arguably, if a white teenager had been shot, an investigation would have immediately been opened without the necessity of public pressure, and the cop might have been convicted.

Arguably.
Nah there are around 400 REPORTED "justifiable" homicides by police every year in the US, there have been 18 cases of charges pressed against police officers of negligent or unjustified homicide, and a grand total of ZERO convictions. This includes white victims like Kelly Thomas with non-white officers like Manuel Ramos.

Police in America are immune to the law, simple as. The govt. wants a monopoly on killing or suppressing it's citizens, they certainly aren't going to let something as trivial as facts take that ability away or hamper it.

The paid media is doing it's best to frame it as a race problem, and that's a part of it, but the bigger problem is the rise of the police state that it showcases. Shooting unarmed guys with their hands up, MULTIPLE times until dead, responding with military grade armored vehicles, snipers, press arrests. Hammerlock knows what's up.
Liddellianenko is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2014, 04:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
I Finish Threads
 
HexRei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 8,521
HexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By AllHexRei Is Beloved By All
I took part in the Occupy protests in my town and what I saw is that it's usually just a few idiots who start the mindless destruction and a few more who follow suit. Unfortunately it's hard to tell who did what and so everyone who was protesting gets slapped with the label of rioter. We had some arrests here over the Ferguson decision last night in fact.

Also, Missouri is a deeply racially divided area compared to a lot of the country, it's not surprising that tensions are flaring.
__________________
His helmet was stifling, it narrowed his vision. And he must see far. His shield was heavy. It threw him off balance. And his target is far away.
HexRei is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios