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Old 09-07-2007, 09:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I was just listening Michael Savage in the shower and he read the transcript of Laden's message and he (Savage) made an excellent point at the end that it sounds an aweful lot like a justification for another attack.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It was in the NY Post this morning, they also comented on the black beard.

I dunno about Osama's comments, I mean he is the leader of Al Queda and had a hand in 9/11, so he obviously has no problem killing civilians.

I think it's a ploy on his part to make Bush look even worse(if thats possible). Remember the USS Cole bombing, that was years before Bush was the Pres. These guys will always hate us and will always try to attack us in some way. When Bush's term is up, regardless of who gets elected Al Queda will still view us as an enemy. They disagree with Western Culture across the board, not just republicans. Remember, they make thier women cover everything but thier eyes, they torture people who break minor laws, They are against all non-muslims. This shit goes alot deeper than the Bush administration. And I hate Bush.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:36 PM   #23 (permalink)
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they hate us infidels because we don't stone people to death, chop off extremities for petty theft etc.

Remember in WWII it was popular to paint hot women on planes etc? All our assault vehicles etc. should have a painting of a scantily clad woman with the word " freedom" somewhere on the figure.
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
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he released a new message today, and what strikes me as most important is that in one passage he said that he knows the vast majority of American people want the war stopped, and that we elected the Democratic congress to do so, and they've done nothing.

what is so important in that message is that he recognizes and states that he understand how it isn't the American people who have done this, but Bush and the rest of the government. essentially, he said that he doesn't blame us, or want revenge on us, but that he blames Bush and the government; which of course we all know he's right about.

very very very interesting!
Awww he doesn't blame us, he just wants to blow us up! Very interesting indeed? He isn't a stupid man. He is getting people to blow themselves up and be happy with it. I know its religious but no were in their books does it say "do a suicide/mass homicide death". I know you are going to want to expand on this part, but come on, not many sane people will blow themselves up. He is able to convince them and lead them, so of course he knows that to just "blame" our government would help with the people(or at least the Laden-sympathizers, which are very little to none) to vote for a President that wants to withdraw. Then he is safe until he attacks again. The only interesting thing I see with this is that he is smarter than I gave him credit for, if indeed that is him and he is still alive(which ideally he isn't).
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:34 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:41 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Its a shame that you would chose to agree with anything he had said.

"he said that he doesn't blame us, or want revenge on us"

Blame us for what? What could he possibly blame us for? For being angry as hell that he attacked us when we were minding our own business?
Doesnt want revenge on us for what? For seeking to destroy him after he attacked us?

Its a damned shame that some people choose to believe he and other radical muslims like him and his organization are the victims.

He's right? Are you serious? You are a mental midget for agreeing with a cowardly terrorist.
you obviously missed my point.

and besides, if he says bush is bad, and it's a fact, am i not allowed to "agree"?

i didn't say he was a great guy, or that his cause is a just one, just that he had a valid point and it was interesting how he didn't "blame us" outright in this latest video!

and as for what he could blame us for???

oh, i don't know, how about going into the middle east, creating Israel from a palestinian country for our own oil greed. and constantly, throughout the past 50 years, **** the country of it's oil for our own government's profit!

look how the war turned out. Bush, an oil man, is somehow making money off the war, and Cheney, Haliburtin's big boy, is making money because there are so many private contractors in Iraq doing our soldiers jobs for billions and billions of more dollars. who pays that? the US government--i.e., taxpayers... and who get's rich? Him!

our foreign policy has lead to the jihad against us. if we weren't in the middle east for our own greed and to fulfill christian prophecy, perhaps they wouldn't be so pissed at us!!!
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all i did was point out something interesting he said. the reason for this thread was to discuss the implications of it...

so, everyone who thinks i'm a terrorist supporter, you've obviously never read a single thread i've ever posted!
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Old 09-08-2007, 02:36 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Its a shame that you would chose to agree with anything he had said.

"he said that he doesn't blame us, or want revenge on us"

Blame us for what? What could he possibly blame us for? For being angry as hell that he attacked us when we were minding our own business?
Doesnt want revenge on us for what? For seeking to destroy him after he attacked us?

Its a damned shame that some people choose to believe he and other radical muslims like him and his organization are the victims.

He's right? Are you serious? You are a mental midget for agreeing with a cowardly terrorist.
Please sir, learn some history before you post about politics, you will appear a lot less stupid.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:42 AM   #29 (permalink)
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you obviously missed my point.
Still missing it.

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and besides, if he says bush is bad, and it's a fact, am i not allowed to "agree"?
Yep just like Im allowed to disagree. Agreed?

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i didn't say he was a great guy, or that his cause is a just one, just that he had a valid point and it was interesting how he didn't "blame us" outright in this latest video!

and as for what he could blame us for???

oh, i don't know, how about going into the middle east, creating Israel from a palestinian country for our own oil greed. and constantly, throughout the past 50 years, **** the country of it's oil for our own government's profit!
LMAO You a quite the history buff arent you? Are you 100% certain that the US created Israel? And are you saying the US gets oil from Israel? Do you know where Israel is on a map?

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look how the war turned out. Bush, an oil man, is somehow making money off the war, and Cheney, Haliburtin's big boy, is making money because there are so many private contractors in Iraq doing our soldiers jobs for billions and billions of more dollars. who pays that? the US government--i.e., taxpayers... and who get's rich? Him!
How can I look at how the war turned out. Its not friggin over. Haliburton is the best qualified company for the contract. If you can name another company be my guest. Its been doing logistics business for far longer than Dick Cheney had any involvement. Clinton gave them therye contract that was in place at the time of the beginning of the war. It was renewed because NO OTHER COMPANY CAN DO IT.

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our foreign policy has lead to the jihad against us. if we weren't in the middle east for our own greed and to fulfill christian prophecy, perhaps they wouldn't be so pissed at us!!!
You are blaming us? You think that the US sponsers christian prophecy? Where were you educated? Somebody needs a refund.
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:14 AM   #30 (permalink)
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LMAO You a quite the history buff arent you? Are you 100% certain that the US created Israel? And are you saying the US gets oil from Israel? Do you know where Israel is on a map?
The US didn't create Israel, but they supply enough arms and money to them so that they have one of the highest funded and best equipped militaries in the world. Can you not see how this favortism could piss of some Muslims and create some anti-US sentiments?


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How can I look at how the war turned out. Its not friggin over. Haliburton is the best qualified company for the contract. If you can name another company be my guest. Its been doing logistics business for far longer than Dick Cheney had any involvement. Clinton gave them therye contract that was in place at the time of the beginning of the war. It was renewed because NO OTHER COMPANY CAN DO IT.
Oh yeah, the war is going JUST FINE. An estimated 700,000-1,000,000 civilian deaths, a supposed 'green zone' that got bombed, millions of refugees, suicide bomers and roadside bombs going off nearly every day. And all this at the cost of a few billion dollars a day to the american taxpayer. WOOO WAY TO GO!!!
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