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But isn't it said that after this, this is how man got the concept of right and wrong? I mean, Adam and Eve were living in a perfect world, with no evil and no wrong, nothing bad right? So how would God expect them to understand the implications of their actions if they did not know of these concepts?

Oh, and every animal lived within walking distance of Noah's house.

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But isn't it said that after this, this is how man got the concept of right and wrong? I mean, Adam and Eve were living in a perfect world, with no evil and no wrong, nothing bad right? So how would God expect them to understand the implications of their actions if they did not know of these concepts?

Oh, and every animal lived within walking distance of Noah's house.
Satan is sneaky hes good at deceiving thats what he does... all they had to do was Obey God their creator and things would be fine but its that Free will thing that gets us....thats way Salvation plays such a Huge roll in life


lol we used to be able to talk and roam with the animals before sin came in .... Noah was warning them for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS with God nothing is impossible obviously he supernaturally help Noah .. he was on a mission from God

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"There is no such thing as second-hand revelation. The Bible is simply hearsay."

Also, serious question. If (when) you have children, will you be raising them as christians? or will you raise them on scientific fact and let them make up their own mind? (assuming you don't already have children)

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right it was perfect ...like heaven on Earth but with free will and God is a just God and dosnt like when he is rebeled against... he warned them and told them DONT DO IT...but Satan was on the earth and still is... and lied to them saying they would be like God and as powerful as him and ultimately persuaded them to Ruin it for all of us
Theres no free will in heaven? That sucks.


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lol we used to be able to talk and roam with the animals before sin came in .... Noah was warning them for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS with God nothing is impossible obviously he supernaturally help Noah .. he was on a mission from God
I laughed at this. I like how any and all scientific impossibility can be overruled by 'god did it'

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most of his examples were for the Jews not the Gentiles all this was before Jesus so they have no bearing now that that Gods anger towards sin is quenched by salvation ONLY
That would be fine, but God is supposed to be perfect, and was supposed to be so even before Jesus. If he "changed" at one point, then he has to be imperfect. Why do you hate the Old Testament so much, Jesus said every word of it was to be followed.

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lol we used to be able to talk and roam with the animals before sin came in .... Noah was warning them for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS with God nothing is impossible obviously he supernaturally help Noah .. he was on a mission from God
This is why I love the religious debates. Every once in a while you will say something like this that makes me laugh. How do you explain the fact that Noah had no way of getting to Australia and the Americas, or the Poles? What about the fact he didn't even know they existed?

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Why? I can honestly say I don't think most Christians have read the entire Bible, they just go to church and listen to the priest's sermon. They love the nice parts of the Bible, but the other parts just aren't very Christian.
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Satan is sneaky hes good at deceiving thats what he does... all they had to do was Obey God their creator and things would be fine but its that Free will thing that gets us.
Did God know that they would disobey him?

p.s. you should ask God for some help with your literacy skills.
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Oh, and every animal lived within walking distance of Noah's house.

ok God warned Noah of the flood in time for him to build the arc and save everything so I am sure that God warned all the animals in time to get to the arc.

By the way the bible has been changed over the years by leaders wanting their followers to obey something that they thought they should so they found it would be easier to just but it in their and they would do it because of religion



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why, why did you start this thread? is it that ammusing to hear Liveson make himself, and his fellow believers look like the fools they are?

i know it's lost its novelty on me... now it's just pathetic and frustrating!

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why, why did you start this thread? is it that ammusing to hear Liveson make himself, and his fellow believers look like the fools they are?

i know it's lost its novelty on me... now it's just pathetic and frustrating!
Yes, it is. This is entertainment at its best.
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