Originally Posted by plazzman
DNA and biology aside, has anyone taken into consideration the societies, lifestyles and upbringins of these certain races?
So from what I believe is that he surveyed people from their geographic standpoints, so for example he studied Africans straight from Africa, or recent emmigrated or short lineages.
But IMO I think its really Nature vs Nurture with Nurture coming out on top. Chinese kids are great at math because they have a very complex culture and way of doing things, thus it has been engrained in their way of upbringing and it is ultimately how they rear their children. Now if you take a hand full of Chinese infants and bring them to Souther US and raise them like you would any other child there, Im sure their results would be rather uniform with the other kids.
But heres the tricky part, and Im not sure how to say this the best way I can but, what if after all of these years and considering cultures and lifestyles that this differentiating intelligence has been encoded into our genetics and that yes, after a while you will start to see variations in different race's genetics?
PS: sorry, Im not very good at conveying my thoughts into words...
That's what I think, although I do think this guy has an interesting theory. But what you just posted is basically what most people believe.
The best way to find out, would be to take a shitload of Chinese kids and switch them with a shitload of southern US white kids. If the white kids do as good as the Chinese kids in test scores, while living in China, and the Chinese kids are just as dumb as the southern US kids, while living in southern US, then I guess we are right. But if not, this DNA pioneer may have a good theory going.
You make a good point about the Chinese though. Their language is extremely complex, one of the hardest to learn in all of the world, so with that they learn math easier, as well as other things. But the fact that their parents can teach their toddlers this crazy language, goes with the DNA/Intelligence theory. Could you teach a little white kid in Ohio to speak that language fluently before he turns 7? Or is it easier for the Chinese kid to learn because he is genetically more intelligent? Why do whites and blacks have such a simple and ignorant sounding dialect? Why are they so much more lazy with their dialect than the Asian and Arabic races? Could it be that they (whites and blacks) can't help it?
Is it really a coincidence that Asians always score higher in tests? Is it a coincidence that blacks tend to all make similar life choices and are generally unoriginal? Is it a coincidence that whites tend to all be self-righteous in some way, critical of others, and a bit greedy? Are these ALL results of upbringing? Surely if that were true then it wouldn't be so black and white? (edit: no pun intended)
I'm just thinking out loud. Don't think that just because I typed it out that I believe it. It doesn't have to be either or. Both theories could be right. Maybe the DNA specialist is right, but only to a certain extent, and the generally accepted theory is still valid. That's the thing about debating theories. People wanna automatically think that it has to be either or, when it is more likely that it is a mixture of both, otherwise we wouldn't have the evidence to support each theory to begin with. They both have to have SOME truth to them, otherwise they wouldn't be a valid theory worth debating in the first place..