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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-14-2007, 02:49 PM
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Sorry about that, but you got my point.

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The HS I went to is part of the same school board as Northview and so the curriculum is the same. And the African History that I was taught was actually AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY, my teacher Mr.Caines who's black from the Caribbean hardly knew anything about what he was teaching and he had been teaching 15 years before I met him. So, my question is, where are they going to find teachers who are qualified to teach what they need to teach? The brain-drain has taken the brightest of the brightest down to the US.



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giving a sepparate group of people a sepparate education about how they are different/special than "the others" can't possible turn out good.
I don't know enough about the subject to give you my opinion, but I have to point something out about your statement. doesn't the education many of us whites receive implicitly teach us about how special we are? It's been a while since I was in school, but I don't think I read more than a short story or two written by a black author. Yes, blacks make up a much smaller part of the population, so there are fewer black authors, but that doesn't mean that their contributions aren't important.

Again, I'm not sure whether I think separate school are a good idea, but we really do live in a white society in the US.

Personally, I believe that real equality should be our target, and segregation isn't likely to reach that goal... EVER. Just an impulse.
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It's stupid and it only furthers racism.

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Wow, you people are the best, reps all around (when I can for some) Thanks alot for the inputs.

Anywho. So to answer some questions. This school would have a black faculty because the main purpose of it is to give the students a black role model and/or a father figure for others.

It will be K-8 so its not a rehab program, its kind of a rearing program. When I was in middle school we never studied African/Asian and European(some) studies. From what I remember it was domestic Canadian history. So I dont see why now all of the sudden its neccessary.

In my essay I refered to the Charter (section 29) where it says only Cathlic schools have the right to public funding etc. So, in order for this school to even work it would have to be private, which would pretty much settle things.
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Here's a fantastic idea. Create a focus on world history instead of the current Anglo-saxon curriculum. Follow that by decentralizing American culture and fusing it with the rest of the globe and we won't have to worry about combating segregation in such an absolutely stupid way.

Consider that the majority of urban areas are often inhabited by a particular race. For example how many predominately black schools have a predominately white staff? Furthermore the idea that a father figure has to be of a similar ethnicity is ridiculous and absurd. This entire notion reeks of pretentious and self righteous bull that has no place in a serious attempt at bettering society.

Things like this can never work out for the better.

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In the city where I live, they seperate the Whites from the other races until middle school.
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In the city where I live, they seperate the Whites from the other races until middle school.
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Wow, you people are the best, reps all around (when I can for some) Thanks alot for the inputs.

Anywho. So to answer some questions. This school would have a black faculty because the main purpose of it is to give the students a black role model and/or a father figure for others.

It will be K-8 so its not a rehab program, its kind of a rearing program. When I was in middle school we never studied African/Asian and European(some) studies. From what I remember it was domestic Canadian history. So I dont see why now all of the sudden its neccessary.

In my essay I refered to the Charter (section 29) where it says only Cathlic schools have the right to public funding etc. So, in order for this school to even work it would have to be private, which would pretty much settle things.
But here lies the dilemma. Since they claim that the system has failed them and they need a separate programme to save and address the issue, where will they get the educators to fill that school? Like they said, the system is failing and failed previous generations and only a very, very small percentage make it to university( some don't makle it due to socio-economic reasons). And those that do get in do not necessarily take Education as their major. So where are they going to get the teachers? Are they going to pool all the black teachers from every school board and "volunteer" them to transfer to that school? They would still need help from non-blacks to get things started.



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we already have schools like these where I live.



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