Blackwater being formally investigated - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
The Lounge General off topic chat.

Reply

Old 11-19-2007, 10:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
Free Thinker
 
pt447's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In your closet!
Posts: 5,673
Blog Entries: 1
pt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level now
Blackwater being formally investigated

U.S. Prosecutors Subpoena Blackwater Employees - New York Times

copied and pasted this from my blog...


I haven't posted anything in a while, because i had an epiphany about myself, the world, and everything. Politics raises my blood pressure to dangerous levels. I had gone through a period of reading like none other in my life, constantly absorbing more and more information about the complete and utter degradation of society, government, and everything.

But for some reason, the preceding link sparked a now willingly-latent interest...

It seems that on rare occasions our government actually functions in accordance with what's right and moral. The fact that the recent Blackwater incidents and resulting scandals haven't simply faded into obscurity, and that an actual investigation seems to be under way, fills me with some small sense of hope about things. I know nothing big will ever change, but at least someone is taking a stand for this. If we had wiped the slate clean, and allowed a government-sponsored mercenary corporation to literally get away with murder, i wouldn't have been surprised. But this goes to show that there are actually some people out there who are willing to use the government for what it was intended; to right wrongs, and set forth an exemplar of moral standards.

of course, like always, this will turn into a political puzzle-piece to be used and quoted for partisan gain. But somewhere down deep there will be good coming from this formal inquiry... I hope...
__________________
whiskey, racism, money, grease, twinkie's, guns.....yep lol thats about it

http://www.watchblog.com/

http://www.xanga.com/mfalino
pt447 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 11-20-2007, 12:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
Defecato, ergo sum
 
Gluteal Cleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,151
Gluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level now
If you haven't read it already, check out "Licensed to Kill: Hired Guns in the War on Terror". It's pretty good.
Gluteal Cleft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2007, 01:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
Josh3239's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: People's Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 799
Josh3239 is on a distinguished roadJosh3239 is on a distinguished roadJosh3239 is on a distinguished roadJosh3239 is on a distinguished road
I'll hold my opinions until they actually confirm 100% what happend. Let's not forget that it is still Iraq, it is a combat zone and we have different groups of people trying to kill eachother. Lets not forget that these PMCs are human to, they have human emotions and something may have set off red flags to them whether it was a real threat or not.

I'll I am going to say is these military contractors are generally speaking combat vets who are former special forces and when they becomes PMCs they no longer have the government holding their leash.
Josh3239 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2007, 04:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
Free Thinker
 
pt447's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In your closet!
Posts: 5,673
Blog Entries: 1
pt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level now
true... but explain the reasoning behind having more mercenaries in Iraq than soldiers? perhaps we shouldn't enter into conflicts we cannot do without the help of hired mercenaries...

and don't forget, every time a Blackwater gun-jockey kills an innocent civilian, they are proving that evil capitalist Americans are trying to take over Iraq!!!

every second we are there we validate everything negative being said about us!
__________________
whiskey, racism, money, grease, twinkie's, guns.....yep lol thats about it

http://www.watchblog.com/

http://www.xanga.com/mfalino
pt447 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2007, 06:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
Defecato, ergo sum
 
Gluteal Cleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,151
Gluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level nowGluteal Cleft is on another level now
Quote:
Originally Posted by pt447
true... but explain the reasoning behind having more mercenaries in Iraq than soldiers? perhaps we shouldn't enter into conflicts we cannot do without the help of hired mercenaries...
Read the book I mentioned, and you'll see. They're more effective than troops for many types of operations, and in most operations, cost LESS than doing it through the regular forces.

The author goes, lives, and patrols with some of the Blackwater dudes, and some of the non-blackwater ops working in Pakistan. (Unofficially). I don't recall whether it's that book or one of his others, but he also spends time with some of the warlords that are the participants in a lot of the squabbles over there. He sheds light on stuff you'll never see or here of on the news.
Gluteal Cleft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2007, 06:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
Free Thinker
 
pt447's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In your closet!
Posts: 5,673
Blog Entries: 1
pt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level nowpt447 is on another level now
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gluteal Cleft
Read the book I mentioned, and you'll see. They're more effective than troops for many types of operations, and in most operations, cost LESS than doing it through the regular forces.

The author goes, lives, and patrols with some of the Blackwater dudes, and some of the non-blackwater ops working in Pakistan. (Unofficially). I don't recall whether it's that book or one of his others, but he also spends time with some of the warlords that are the participants in a lot of the squabbles over there. He sheds light on stuff you'll never see or here of on the news.
i've seen the book and want to pick it up. but you proved my point. we have a milliatary which we ingrain in our kids as basically the utmost calling a citizen can answer, yet like you said, the milliatary is essentially a support force for mercenary forces. it's all hypocritical and full of bullshit. i mean, we officially turned our "milliatary", into a shining example of capitalism. we just call them "security", and they can kill, ****, and do whatever they want without any scrutiny. since they aren't in direct combat, they don't have to abide by any war crimes!

"well there members of congress, i was just protecting my package from what might have been a terrorist... not my problem..."
__________________
whiskey, racism, money, grease, twinkie's, guns.....yep lol thats about it

http://www.watchblog.com/

http://www.xanga.com/mfalino
pt447 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios