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Old 09-27-2006, 05:32 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:33 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Nah bro, You got nothing, those might be mismatches, but the fact is all those guys you just named earned their spot in the UFC by making a name for themselves in smaller MMA shows. Everyone in the UFC is an accomplished MMA fighter, not true for Pride, So depth has to go to UFC by default.
Here are some facts to back up what he is saying.

Eilers had won 6 of his last 7 fights before he fought AA
Nate Quarry won 4 fights in a row before he fought Franklin 3 by TKO and 1 by sub.
Joe Riggs had won 10 of his last 11 fights before he fought Hughes.
Buentello was on a 6 fight win steak before he fought AA
McGee was on a 5 fight win streak before he fought Silvia
Elvis….well he had just submitted Jeremy Horn before he fought Tito…and that’s about it. But MMA was a lot different in 2001.
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:36 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Here are some facts to back up what he is saying.

Eilers had won 6 of his last 7 fights before he fought AA
Nate Quarry won 4 fights in a row before he fought Franklin 3 by TKO and 1 by sub.
Joe Riggs had won 10 of his last 11 fights before he fought Hughes.
Buentello was on a 6 fight win steak before he fought AA
McGee was on a 5 fight win streak before he fought Silvia
Elvis….well he had just submitted Jeremy Horn before he fought Tito…and that’s about it. But MMA was a lot different in 2001.
eilers lost to paul in the ufc right before that fight. nate quarry being the #1 contender just shows how weak they were. Cbingham you lost, know get the **** out.

sean gannon getting signed to a ufc contract cuz he won an underground street fight is a joke.
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:40 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Chuck was a very good division 1 NCAA wrestler, and has the best takedown defense in MMA, so that conclusion was wrong.
he asked about submissions...not wrestling... proof that you don't know what you're talking about....


"show me his sub skills."

"he's a good wrestler."

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Old 09-27-2006, 05:42 PM   #65 (permalink)
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he doesnt know what he's talking about. He *****ed cuz pride has thier A level fighters beat up B level fighters, when ufc does that all the time. Eilers, quarry, riggs, beuntello, these guys are nothing but B list fighters. yet they headline ufc main events, geez what a surprise.
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:44 PM   #66 (permalink)
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the reason for that is because the pride guys beat up on each other which causes them loses which naturally causes someone to fall in the rankings..is is like college football, when a team from a no name conference is undefeated and is ranked higher than say a team like Michigan that has 2 loses in the big ten..Just because Michigan has 2 loses they were to good teams, unlike(i duno) TCU who is undefeated but played noone..I dunno i tried to give you an anology, but basically what im saying is the Pride guys have more depth in their divisions and loses are more common than in the ufc where there is the champ than Everyone else.
that's a good point... in PRIDE, the top guys are always fighting each other, while in the UFC, they bring in cans to keep their top guys records clean! its an artificially created ranking, sort of.

true, in PRIDE there's a few mismatches... but the fact that the fighters have basically all fought each other, sometimes 2 or more times... and in the UFC... the top guys are always fighting "new or upancoming fighters" does have show something!
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:50 PM   #67 (permalink)
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that's a good point... in PRIDE, the top guys are always fighting each other, while in the UFC, they bring in cans to keep their top guys records clean! its an artificially created ranking, sort of.

true, in PRIDE there's a few mismatches... but the fact that the fighters have basically all fought each other, sometimes 2 or more times... and in the UFC... the top guys are always fighting "new or upancoming fighters" does have show something!
i know, look at 2 of chuck's last 6 fights. vernon white is a can and jeremy horn is a natural 185er that no one would take seriously as a contender at 205. He also fought a 43 year old couture that looked bad against mike van arsdale. Chuck's first win against couture is valuable, but the 2nd one, no way.

Shogun on the other hand has cleaned house in pride's 205 weight class.

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Old 09-27-2006, 06:34 PM   #68 (permalink)
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i know, look at 2 of chuck's last 6 fights. vernon white is a can and jeremy horn is a natural 185er that no one would take seriously as a contender at 205. He also fought a 43 year old couture that lloked bad against mike van arsdale. Chuck's first win against coture is valauable, but the 2nd one, no way.

Shogun on the other hand has cleaned house in pride's 205 weight class.
quite a valid point!!!
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pt447, you are trying to dig up everything to take my authority of being a moderator away because of your jealousy. You should go back to Sherdog if your going to act like that. You and everyone else agreed Brownpimp88 was owning Cbingham. Complete KO, Cbingham is going to get it taken to him again.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:40 PM   #70 (permalink)
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