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Old 03-10-2009, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The one thing I cannot stand when it comes to movies and books...

... Is pretentiousness! (God I hope that's a word or else I'll be SO pretentious).

I just read a Paulo Cohelo book (a really pretentious author everybody seems to love. His books are like the Davinci Code for semi-intellectual people right now...) and that remnded me how much I hate when books, movies and TV shows goes all preachy and pretentious.

I mean it's OK if they suck, what really, really, REALLY pisses me of is when the pink moster of pretention comes in and destroys everything for me! I especially hate it when there's supposed to be a "message" that is just a way cliché moral lession you've already heard a thousand times already!

Sorry for the rant. Just wanted to let some steam out.

Anyone agree or disagree? Or does anyone have their own thing they just can't stand?
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I c, I dunno what to say cause I don't read books lol
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You'll have to put an example, I'm not sure I understand.
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I especially hate it when there's supposed to be a "message" that is just a way cliché moral lession you've already heard a thousand times already!
It's like Stephen King always says when literary snobs give him a hard time for his graphic content, but undeniable success: "Why can't you just let a story be a story?"

Social aspects, historical criticisms, politics... let that come out through the story. Let the story drive these things. But by GOD, don't force it in there.
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I love pretentious stuff, but only when it's above the petty minds of plebs like you lot.

What I dislike is random bigotry included but disguised. (All the male characters are stupid. All the female characters are stupid. Etc etc).
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Completely disagree.

Sophistication doesn't necessarily equate pretentiousness. Jean-Luc Godard's films are politically among the most complex the cinema has ever seen, specifically in regard to their aesthetic and textual construction. Intertextuality and an esoteric understanding of the content only enhances its message and concerns, adding value to the art as a whole.
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Completely disagree.

Sophistication doesn't necessarily equate pretentiousness. Jean-Luc Godard's films are politically among the most complex the cinema has ever seen, specifically in regard to their aesthetic and textual construction. Intertextuality and an esoteric understanding of the content only enhances its message and concerns, adding value to the art as a whole.
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