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post #11 of 76 (permalink) Old 03-11-2009, 09:29 AM
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Hopefully these killers can be rehabilitated so they don't suffer too much. Poor mentally deranged killers.
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Hopefully these killers can be rehabilitated so they don't suffer too much. Poor mentally deranged killers.
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Argh do not go there again.

Well one rehabilitated himself with a bullet to the head. The German has fled, if he gets caught he will be jailed forever I reckon.



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How can mentally unstable people get hold of drugs or kiddie porn etc etc. Even in the UK with strict gun control mentalists can still get a hold of guns illegally.
No they do not, you prick. I always see you make these kind of statements and then immediately back off from the thread the second you are called out on them.

Give me some examples of LONE mentally unstable people getting guns(illegal ones) and going on shooting rampages like this. They are very, very rare. Serious criminals can get their hands on guns. Serious crminals, from organised crime families aren't the people commiting these kind of shooting rampages.

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No they do not, you prick. I always see you make these kind of statements and then immediately back off from the thread the second you are called out on them.

Give me some examples of LONE mentally unstable people getting guns(illegal ones) and going on shooting rampages like this. They are very, very rare. Serious criminals can get their hands on guns. Serious crminals, from organised crime families aren't the people commiting these kind of shooting rampages.




You don't have arguments, all you have is snide remarks that play on popular opinion. Plus, you in particular can't come up with a logical coherent argument to save your life.
Did I say they used guns to go on rampages? no I said they could get hold of illegal guns.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_...934426.stm#map

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7677403.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6603017.stm

Since the only legal pistols are in the UK are 0.22 calibre its safe to assume these guns were illegal as there was no mention of shotguns or rifles

edit I've just reread your post and yes serious criminals get hold of guns but if I can refer to my earlier post the argument was about gun control before you raged all over it.



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Those kind of crimes are completely different to shooting rampages carried out by "mentalists" which are a HUGE problem in the US and basically non-existent over here.

Don't even bring the IRA into this, which is yet again a completely different situation. Like it or not, the IRA and it's splinter groups are still the remenants of the legitimate Irish Republican Army who fought for our independance, however far they have strayed they still recieve support and justification based on this. Trying to compare their abilities and actions to crazy people who go on shooting rampages makes no sense.

And to your edit, no gun control won't completely stop everyone getting guns. It is hpowever highly effective in preventing people like this getting guns(and thus preventing actions like his) and makes it harder for criminals to get guns.

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Police found him and killed him. Unfortunately he didn't go alone at that point either.

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Triggering a land and air manhunt, he hijacked a car, freed the passengers and drove about 25 miles (40 kilometers) before police found him. When confronted, he killed two bystanders in a shootout with police before he was slain, Baden Wuerttemburg governor Guenther Oettinger said. Two officers were seriously injured, but there was no immediate information on other casualties.
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God! Why the hell take others with you when that person is the only one deserving to die?
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God! Why the hell take others with you when that person is the only one deserving to die?
Technically we don't know why he did it...maybe his entire family sexually, physically, or emotionally abused him.

But I wouldn't say that they deserve to die (any of them; including the suspect).

And this happened in AL...not too long ago you could walk into Wal-Mart and puchase a gun there (may still be able to). They don't have too many anti-gun laws in one of the reddest states in the country.

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You don't have arguments, all you have is snide remarks that play on popular opinion. Plus, you in particular can't come up with a logical coherent argument to save your life.
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Technically we don't know why he did it...maybe his entire family sexually, physically, or emotionally abused him.

But I wouldn't say that they deserve to die (any of them; including the suspect).

And this happened in AL...not too long ago you could walk into Wal-Mart and puchase a gun there (may still be able to). They don't have too many anti-gun laws in one of the reddest states in the country.
Noted...sorry if my comment was insensitive...but things like this upset me so much.
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