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Old 10-29-2009, 09:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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This thread has been bugging me for a while so here goes:

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Everyone struggles some more than others but any idiot can sit there and give up and start feeling sorry for themselves. We remember those who over come their obstacles not those stop and complain and start to feel sorry for themselves and expect others to give them what they feel they are entitled to. Those who are mentally strong will be the ones who prevail. those who have the will to succeed will succeed. Believe me I know. Don't be a born looser.
"Life is pain, anyone who says otherwise is selling you something."

Your belief in the power of positive thinking is admirable but ultimately life isn't fair and isn't supposed to be. A strong will may allow you to drag yourself up from the canvas but there are no guarantees you won't get knocked down once again. When we consider real disadvantages that exist in society ( Economic, Race, Religion, Sex etc ) the path to success is even rockier for some.
For me, the quote in your sig reveals that the battle in life is to ensure that you make the most of every opportunity and hope that life rewards you. Ultimately life is full of many apparently "successful" people who are born losers and many "losers" who have tried their level best.
However, I believe one of the most quintessential human traits is the ability to empathize with others less fortunate or who have been beaten down by the challenges of life.

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Old 10-31-2009, 12:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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This thread is full of shit. Some people are unhappy - they don't do it to piss you off, so don't point and laugh or act superior. If your life is so great, why are you enjoying judging others? Seems like your life isn't so great and you are trying to pursuade yourself it is by comparing it to others you consider loosers.

If people feel unhappy they should be honest about it. Not lie because its irks you.
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This thread is full of shit. Some people are unhappy - they don't do it to piss you off, so don't point and laugh or act superior. If your life is so great, why are you enjoying judging others? Seems like your life isn't so great and you are trying to pursuade yourself it is by comparing it to others you consider loosers.

If people feel unhappy they should be honest about it. Not lie because its irks you.
It's alright to be unhappy and depressed when life calls for it, it's apart of being human and it will never change. What my problem is are these people who sit and stew in their unhappy emotions, pouting if you will, over why its soo gloomy .

Go on your Facebook or Myspace right now and just skim through your friends list, I bet you will notice quite a bit of people whom are just seeking attention and are letting themselves get depressed for it.

It's bullshit. If the entire Earth was like that we all would have died a long time ago.

You are allowed to be sad and depressed every once in a while and you are also allowed to vent those emotions to whomever you feel is a good listener. This thread is about the people who take it to another level and let it consume their lives cause they are too weak and or are too selfish to do anything about it.

When you're down in a hole, what do you do - Just stay there and wait around for your life to end or do you try your f*cken hardest to get yourself??

Oh, and another thing, asking someone else for help is something I think a lot of people are afraid of, especially men. Asking for help is not a weakness, it's a strength. Someone out there is willing to lend a hand but they can't help you if you don't ask.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I still have sympathy for people who are stuck in depression, or otherwise sad for a long time, there really aren't any good solutions. You always hear of great solutions, but they are normally only temporary solutions. It seems a lot of people here think drinking is a good picker-upper, but how long can you do that for?

My cousin in law jumped out a building recently. He was in the hospitol for a bit. He's always been depressed, and medications tend to make him even crazier. He's had some shit in his life.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's an idiot, mainly for not taking my advice on anything and just getting worse and worse. I don't feel sad myself because he is stuck. If he moved to England I think I could spend more time with him help him out, but otherwise, well that's that. But still I think he's in a difficult place, and don't feel he is really to blame.

Most the people on my facebook are more narcisists or nerds than emo's. Or at least not open with their boo hoo hoo.
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I drink a lot but it's not because I am depressed and use it to cover anything up. I drink because it's fun and I like it.

How long can I do it for?? Not forever thats for sure. It will take its toll on my body at some point like it has in the past and when that happens, I will quit, just like in the past.

There aren't a whole lot of things that will make me completely give up. I get depressed like everyone else but given the history of bad things in my life, I am used to it and go through the process of recovery until I am back to normal. It is small stages and steps that include a variety of emotions. If need be, I will ask someone I know for help or have a deep talk with one of my boys.

I for one don't like feeling sorry for myself cause I know there are an infinite number of people out there who have it worse than I do.

Keep your head up, chin tucked and come out swinging, is what I say.
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This thread is full of shit. Some people are unhappy - they don't do it to piss you off, so don't point and laugh or act superior. If your life is so great, why are you enjoying judging others? Seems like your life isn't so great and you are trying to pursuade yourself it is by comparing it to others you consider loosers.

If people feel unhappy they should be honest about it. Not lie because its irks you.
yes it is human nature to feel unhappy at times but what does being unhappy and dwelling on it and asking why me or feeling sorry for yourself achieve for you or anyone else? If you minimize these feelings and focus on what you need to do next instead of what has already happened you will live a much happier better life.
it's not about how it effects me its about how it effects you because it doesn't help you one bit.

I have a great life. I wouldn't trade it for any in the world. As been said before I was diagnosed with brain cancer at a young age and learned that feeling sorry for yourself feeling dwelling on your misfortunes gets you no where. Just trying to share some of this with my friends on the MMA forum yourself included.
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:06 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Some people trivialize depression (often unintentionally) by dropping a platitude on a depressed person as if that is the one thing they needed to hear. While some of these thoughts have been helpful to some people (for example, some find that praying is very helpful), the context in which they are often said mitigates any intended benefit to the hearer. Platitudes don't cure depression.

Here is the list from contributors to a.s.d.:

0. "What's *your* problem?"

1. "Will you stop that constant whining? What makes you think that anyone cares?"

2. "Have you gotten tired yet of all this me-me-me stuff?"

3. "You just need to give yourself a kick in the rear."

4. "But it's all in your mind."

5. "I thought you were stronger than that."

6. "No one ever said life was fair."

7. "As you get stronger you won't have to wallow in it as much."

8. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps."

9. "Do you feel better now?" (Usually said following a five minute conversation in which the speaker has asked me "what's wrong?" and "would you like to talk about it?" with the best of intentions, but absolutely no understanding of depression as anything but an irrational sadness.)

10. "Why don't you just grow up?"

11. "Stop feeling sorry for yourself."

12. "There are a lot of people worse off than you?"

13. "You have it so good, why aren't you happy?"

14. "It's a beautiful day!"

15. "You have so many things to be thankful for, why are you depressed!"

16. "What do you have to be depressed about".

17. "Happiness is a choice"

18. "You think *you've* got problems..."

19. "Well at least it's not that bad."

20. "Maybe you should take vitamins for your stress."

21. "There is always somebody worse off than you are."

22. "Lighten up!"

23. "You should get off all those pills."

24. "You are what you think."

25. "Cheer up!"

26. "You're always feeling sorry for yourself."

27. "Why can't you just be normal?"

28. "Things aren't *that* bad, are they?"

29. "Have you been praying/reading the Bible?"

30. "You need to get out more."

31. "We have to get together some time." [Yeah, right!]

32. "Get a grip!"

33. "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."

34. "Take a hot bath. That's what I always do when I'm upset."

35. "Well, everyone gets depressed sometimes!"

36. "Get a job!"

37. "Smile and the world smiles with you, cry and you cry alone."

38. "You don't *look* depressed!"

39. "You're so selfish!"

40. "You never think of anyone but yourself."

41. "You're just looking for attention."

42. "Have you got PMS?"

43. "You'll be a better person because of it!"

44. "Everybody has a bad day now and then."

45. "You should buy nicer clothes to wear."

46. "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar."

47. "Why don't you smile more?"

48. "A person your age should be having the time of your life."

49. "The only one you're hurting is yourself."

50. "You can do anything you want if you just set your mind to it."

51. "This is a place of BUSINESS, not a HOSPITAL" --> after confiding to supervisor about my depression

52. "Depression is a symptom of your sin against God."

53. "You brought it on yourself"

54. "You can make the choice for depression and its effects, or against depression, it's all in YOUR hands."

55. "Get off your rear and do something." -or- "Just do it!"

56. "Why should I care?"

57. "Snap out of it, will you?"

58. "You *want* to feel this way."

59. "You have no reason to feel this way."

60. "Its your own fault."

61. "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."

62. "You're always worried about *your* problems."

63. "Your problems aren't that big."

64. "What are you worried about? You should be fine."

65. "Just don't think about it."

66. "Go Away."

67. "You don't have the ability to do it."

68. "Just wait a few weeks, it'll be over soon."

69. "Go out and have some fun!"

70. "You're making me depressed as well..."

71. "I just want to help you."

72. "The world out there is not that bad..."

73. "Just try a little harder!"

74. "Believe me, I know how you feel. I was depressed once for several days."

75. "You need a boy/girl-friend."

76. "You need a hobby."

77. "Just pull yourself together"

78. "You'd feel better if you went to church"

79. "I think your depression is a way of punishing us." ---My mother

80. "Sh*t or get off the pot."

81. "So, you're depressed. Aren't you always?"

82. "What you need is some real tragedy in your life to give you perspective."

83. "You're a writer, aren't you? Just think of all the good material you're getting out of this."

84. This one is best executed with an evangelical-style handshake, i.e. one of my hands is imprisoned by two belonging to a beefy person who thinks he has a lot more charisma than I do: "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." This has actually happened to me. Bitten-back response: "Who are 'our'? And don't do me any favors, schmuck."

85. "Have you tried camomile tea?"

86. "So, you're depressed. Aren't you always?"

87. "You will be ok, just hang in there, it will pass." "This too shall pass." - Ann Landers

88. "Oh, perk up!"

89. "Try not being so depressed."

90. "Quit whining. Go out and help people and you won't have time to brood..."

91. "Go out and get some fresh air... that always makes me feel better."

92. "You have to take up your bed and carry on."

93. "Why don't you give up going to these quacks (i.e. doctors) and throw out those pills, then you'll feel better."

94. "Well, we all have our cross to bear."

95. "You should join band or chorus or something. That way you won't be thinking about yourself so much."

96. "You change your mind."

97. "You're useless."

98. "Nobody is responsible for your depression."

99. "You don't like feeling that way? So, change it."
"It's not about how it effects me it's about how it effects you because it doesn't help you one bit."
If it's not about how it effects you why are you starting a thread about someone elses depressed post? Saying they should buck up?
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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#81 and #86 are the same. Guess that one was REALLY bad?
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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of course NGH i wouldn't go up to a person in deep depression and say this however its the everyday people that always shed the blame playing the victim and find excuses that i am talking about.

as the quote said no shame in losing when you have an excuse right? Wrong mindset IMO.
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