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Old 11-05-2009, 10:44 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:32 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Gay marriage is one thing. There exsits an ideological disconnect that is not necessarily one of bigotry... rather of ignorance in my opinion but on that i digress.

On the other hand, *** is a disgusting term no dif than ni*ger. I'm pretty shocked that mods on MMAF are letting it be used in this or any other bigoted context, and at how few are willing to stand up agaisnt bigotry.

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a study of 5,000 gay men and women, 35 percent of gay men and 38 percent of lesbians have considered or attempted suicide. The statistics are even higher among gay teens: The Department of Health study indicates that gay youth are up to six times more likely to attempt suicide than straight teens, and gay teenagers account for up to 30 percent of all teenage suicides in the nation.

Suicide rates for gay teens are 4 times higher than for those who have endured frontline battle conditions or torture.

Not much in the way of cruelty trumps hating others for the way they love. It's a cold world, shame on us all.


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It's a free world, people can hate whoever they want. And personally I feel they should be able to withhold anything of theirs if they want to. Obviously its different when a whole country acts to alienate minorities - but is that whats going on here? Is not accepting homosexuals a majority position now? (Not really sure it is - perhaps I just hang out with too many nice people).
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Why do people have this idea that "marriage" is a Christian idea? Or even that Christians have some sort of right to the word "marriage"? Marriage laws predate recorded history, and therefore predate Christianity. It began as a civil institution, designed to help society, and it should remain one.
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Gay marriage is one thing. There exsits an ideological disconnect that is not necessarily one of bigotry... rather of ignorance in my opinion but on that i digress.

On the other hand, *** is a disgusting term no dif than ni*ger. I'm pretty shocked that mods on MMAF are letting it be used in this or any other bigoted context, and at how few are willing to stand up agaisnt bigotry.




Not much in the way of cruelty trumps hating others for the way they love. It's a cold world, shame on us all.


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I'd prefer not to see the term *** anymore, at the very least not in this thread.

Occasionally, a divorce is amicable enough wherein the child still has two loving parents if not under the same roof, then a phone call and short drive away.

Very occasionally, a child has two available parents in a loving home where their parents decided not to get married, for whatever reason.

Other than that, unless our culture becomes much more forward-thinking, we have to make do with the outdated, flawed construct of marriage to provide a stable and relatively happy home for kids.
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If we wanted to (I won't start) but we can have threads based on the people that stick out of any community. Do things like the NAACP bother you guys out there that don't think gays' have parades? What about the Million Man March? Hopefully by doign the things they are doing, they will eventually be able to be treated like they deserve to be treated....you know, all human like.
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It's a free world, people can hate whoever they want. And personally I feel they should be able to withhold anything of theirs if they want to. Obviously its different when a whole country acts to alienate minorities - but is that whats going on here? Is not accepting homosexuals a majority position now? (Not really sure it is - perhaps I just hang out with too many nice people).
I'd like to think that it was a majority position, but in the US, I'm not sure that it is.
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I totally agree with this. It's sort of trampling on Christians to demand they allow Gay Marriage (rather than just gay civil partnership). Don't know why you are getting mod jumped, when other posters are calling each other insensitive bigots and whatnot.

While you're right in principle about forcing Christian churches to marry gays, I think it comes with the territory of Christianity intruding itself on the secular world, and in general the history of the united states. In essence, many institutions of the state have the christian religious flavour to them, and when christianity seeks to actively control or be involved in state control, I'm not surprised when the State assumes its co-identity with the church.

And, as its been stated before in this thread, there's is so much more really gay, flamboyant heterosexuality out there, on your TV, in the street, that to complain about gays expressing themselves, no matter how crassly, after being repressed in history as a whole, and in each individuals lifetime, is just petty to me. Get over it.
Change the channel, keep walking, or you know, suck it up.

In my city theres a gay pride parade. A couple streets are closed, various people have fun. For that one day, I don't go to that part of the city. Not a big deal.


I can't imagine what it would be like to have one of your strongest drives demonized and publicly denigrated, and have to repress it and feel like an abomination. Looking at the matter, psychologically and socially, gay identity has been created or brought to the fore precisely because it has been repressed by society. When your sexuality is marked, when the society around reduces your identity to your sexuality, you internalize it. You become a '***' and mainly a '***'. In a more accepting environment the fact that you were gay would not figure so prominently in your identity. Now, you can either accept that being a '***' is a bad thing or you can turn that around and be proud of it. Either way, affirmative or negative, many gays have had their sexuality become their identity through this process. So when you see gays parading around flamboyantly, it isn't just a fact of their flamboyant nature, but a combination with the reverse, a repressive social environment creating and concentrating that identity.

Also, it shouldn't matter if there are few annoying people. When you allow an example of the minority skew your picture of the majority, its called prejudice. Its not up to the people acting flamboyantly to curb their enthusiasm but for people to realize this behaviour should have nothing to do with the equality of homosexuals.
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I don't understand why some of you can't grasp that not everyone can tolerate flamboyant gay people. It has nothing at all to do with their sexuality. Just because you're gay doesn't mean you have to be an over the top queen about it.

There are tons of gay people in this country and that's fine by me I don't care. But I'm not gonna force myself to like something that's super annoying to me just because they happen to be gay. Like I said before, you can ask the majority of average joe gay guys and they will tell you the same thing. There's no reason for them to act the way they do, and I'm entitled to my opinion just like the rest of you.

If you don't mind flamboyantly gay people, good for you. I'm jealous. But if something is super annoying to me, then something is super annoying to me. I never said we should kill them or that they shouldn't get married or anything like that. All I said was that they are ridiculous and most people are sick of seeing them all the time on TV. Once in a while was fine, a few years ago. But now it's just annoying. My opinion. I don't see how it concerns any of you.

If your gonna be all Mr Tolerant all the time then realize that tolerance isn't selective. You can't on one hand tolerate a bunch of fruity little fairies wearing makeup and talking like 6 year old boys and on the other hand not tolerate the people who find that lifestyle absurd and annoying.
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