How are they more realistic? The article says the man was laying in his bed and took out a pocket knife, then refused to let anyone take his property away from him. You're suggesting that he was not only preparing to go on a killing spree but had the physical ability to do so, despite having just had open heart surgery, pneumonia, requiring an oxygen tank, and being 82 freaking years old.
I'd say my What if's were more realistic than a bazooka uder the pillow because it was mentioned earlier that they could've locked him in the room. I just said what if he wasn't in a private room and there were other patients in that room with him or what if he started to inflict damage to himself with the knife. Not that it would happen, but definately most plausible than a bazooka under his pillow.
It's against the rules of the hospital to bring in any kind of weapon for obvious reasons. He brought in a pocket knife and pulled it out and refused to give it up. I'm not saying he was preparing to go on a killing spree or go crazy and start stabbing random people, but how are these officers suppose to know that? The guy even said he doesn't know why he was refusing to give it up, so who knows what else people might've thought he might do. It's not like this guy can't jab the knife at anyone that gets near him. He obviously had the strength to pull the knife out, so I'm sure the nurses didn't want to risk going near him with a knife not knowing if he was going to cut them or not.
Are you suggesting that law enforcement should tase anyone who makes someone else uncomfortable?
No, I'm not. I'm saying that I'm sure these nurses were uncomfortable with a delusional patient weilding a pocket knife in the hospital. These nurses get close to him and I doubt that they would want to take the risk in seeing if he would try to cut them or not. That, and also it's against the law and hospitals policies to bring in any weapon.
In 82 years, he appears to have done no such thing, and as a former prison guard, was even trusted to protect law abiding citizens from those who would.
According to the nurses, he sometimes becomes delirious and delusional. Can't predict what anyone will do when they are like that.
Do you have something personal against nearly dead old men? If so, I know a few mounties you might get along with.
Oh yeah, I hate old men. I can't stand them.
Why would he do that? And how would a knife be helpful in that circumstance. If safety was truly the number one concern, as you suggest, I don't see anything safer then locking him in there by himself. How is him cutting himself any less dangerous then other people tasing him?
Well, if they did lock him in the room, we still do not know if he was in a private room, sharing a room with another patient, or in the recovery room with a dozen others. If he started to cut himself, the hospital and police would be blamed for not properly taking care of patients and for allowing a patient to wield a weapon without consequence.
Most pocket knives are not dangerous enough to do anything other then hurt the other person. The ones you pictured were much larger and would not be considered pocket knives. They would qualify more as tactical knives.
There are thousands of different types of pocket knives, but I guess he knife was 3 inches long.
He had recently been released from the hospital for the heart surgery, but was brought back in due to complications involving pneumonia. He also required an oxygen tank to function. Who knows what kind of havoc he would have wrought on the world from that hospital bed if not for the mounties and their tasers.
He could've easily injured the nurses that handle him. That doesn't require getting up, just a jab or thrust with your arm.
I bet I mean I know i'm deathly scared of 82 year old heart surgery patients who are bedridden and need an oxygen tank. I'm sure he could have done a lot of damage with a pocket knife that probably didn't have a blade longer then 3 inches.
He could've done damage to the nurses. 3 inches is pretty long if stuck into someone's body.
I know, if he weren't delusional he could have sliced that oxygen tank's tube and used a conventional bic lighter to create a flamethrower.
Let's be serious here and think of the real possibilities of hurting the nurses.
I guess a knife can be a huge weapon (even though it is small).
Would you want something 3 inches long stuck into your body?
Look, we are supplied with very vague information on this situation. We aren't told if he took the knife out and flipped the blade out. We aren't told if he was in a room by himself or with other patients. We aren't told how many times officers asked him to drop the weapon, and we aren't told the third part of the story from the nurses that called it in. We are just old that 3 officers tazed and elderly man who goes delusional sometimes for wielding a knife.