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Old 01-12-2009, 12:00 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I highly doubt that someone who has the ability to do what he has done is going to have sorrow or even realise that what he has done is wrong. (God I'm being an ass tonight, shoulda just ****ed that ugly chubby girl.)
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I still can't imagine how... personally I think it's totally untrue. If a guy lives for 50 more years at 30,000 a year to live... or an injection of shit once to kill him... there's just no way it could cost more. even with 1 appeal, with nobody should be able to get more than.

How could it possibly cost more to keep a guy alive? besides that the industrial prison complex is designed to make piles of money keeping people in prison forever..
You need to factor in the cost of appeals etc.
Plus I think it costs more to keep someone on death row than in a normal prison cell, and they tend to be there for years before getting capped.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Thats a weird story. WTF? Now he is blind, i know i sure wouldnt want to be blind in prison.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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How ******* insane do you have to be to do all those things and make yourself blind? He pulled out his first eye and the judge cliamed he was fit for trial? Nice job jackass.
People do all kinds of things in an attempt to get labeled as insane, or unfit for trial, and judges know it. The dude was trying to get out of things, but all he did was lose his eye for it.
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:53 PM   #34 (permalink)
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How is the "industrial prison complex" designed to make money, when they rely on the goverment for funding? I remember when I finiished my program all the major penitentiaries had a hiring freeze because the goverment wasn't putting enough money into it. If you're referring to the private super jails then you might be right but their accounting is not made available to the public. So how do you know that they make "piles" of money?
I am referring to those super crazy prisons. but also, our justice system is pretty much set up to put minorities in prison and keep white color criminals out. It's pretty much a slave labor force. Not all of them, but a lot of prisons produce goods for pennies on the minimum wage dollar. why would they want people to be "rehabed" or "put to death"? either way your losing a slave!
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People do all kinds of things in an attempt to get labeled as insane, or unfit for trial, and judges know it. The dude was trying to get out of things, but all he did was lose his eye for it.
Shaving your eyebrows and yelling a lot would seem more like a sane person's attempt at using the insanity defense (doesn't work). Pulling out your eye is just ******* crazy.
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:56 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Most of the costs associated witht the appeals is what makes it more expensive.
In one regard, this is why nobody should be allowed more than 1 appeal. it's just silly how a gangbanger who killed 8 kids in a drive by get's to try and get out of prison on some minute technicality. Or even just jam up the system with phony appeals just to delay the DP, or for some sick form of entertainment!

And even considering the cost... I want to see how much the average inmates appeal costs are compared to keeping a lifer in for 50-60-75 years? There's just no way a 22 year old who gets life costs the system more in appeal costs than keeping them alive for 75 years!

Everyone should get 1 appeal, that's it. I'm sorry, but if you kill someone intentionally why should you ever have a chance to "repent" or be "reformed"? You took someone's life; you forfeit your own the second you willingly take someone eases!
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* “The additional cost of confining an inmate to death row, as compared to the maximum security prisons where those sentenced to life without possibility of parole ordinarily serve their sentences, is $90,000 per year per inmate. With California’s current death row population of 670, that accounts for $63.3 million annually.”
* Using conservative rough projections, the Commission estimates the annual costs of the present (death penalty) system to be $137 million per year.
* The cost of the present system with reforms recommended by the Commission to ensure a fair process would be $232.7 million per year.
* The cost of a system in which the number of death-eligible crimes was significantly narrowed would be $130 million per year.
* The cost of a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty would be $11.5 million per year.



A new study released by the Urban Institute on March 6, 2008 found that Maryland taxpayers have paid at least $37.2 million for each of the state’s five executions since 1978 when the state reenacted the death penalty. The study, prepared by the Urban Institute, estimates that the average cost to Maryland taxpayers for reaching a single death sentence is $3 million - $1.9 million more than the cost of a non-death penalty case. The study examined 162 capital cases that were prosecuted between 1978 and 1999 and found that seeking the death penalty in those cases cost $186 million more than what those cases would have cost had the death penalty not been sought. At every phase of a case, according to the study, capital murder cases cost more than non-capital murder cases.
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:36 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'd love to know why it costs that much since the average family lives off of around $50,000 if they're lucky!!! Obviously an inflated number designed to bring in hidden revenue. And anyway, that's a great reason to limit appeals and just kill the bastards!

And how does an execution cost so much? You pay one officer some overtime... a doctor, you refuse them any religious counseling/last rights because they don't deserve any. they're last meal is gruel and warm water, and you inject them with some chemicals that cost, at most a few thousand bucks... again, totally inflated!!!

Maybe it's time for these numbers to be evaluated. There's just no reasonable reason for killing some death row piece of garbage to cost so much. none!
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