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Old 01-11-2010, 07:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay, this is not the typical weed should be legalized for 344303904 reasons. That debate is kind of over, it should be legalized.

But this thread is about what things will change once it is legalized?

I'll put up some basic questions and you give me your input on them.

1. How will police monitor people who smoke and drive?
2. What will be considered "safe" to drive after smoking?
3. How will they tell how much you have smoked/how impaired you are? (field sobriety tests don't mean shit in court because they are subjective, breathalyzer is the key to conviction for alcohol)
4. Can you smoke in public?
5. Can you smoke in a bar?
6. Can you smoke in a car?
7. Can you eat THC products in public?
8. Can you be arrested for "high and disorderly"?

More later. g2g
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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All rules = Same as alcohol!

It's hard to say about the driving part, because people who use medical marijuana sometimes need the high to be able to function in the first place. They don't get in to accidents frequently like drunk drivers or drivers who txt even.

There are meters to test how high you are, but really you should just eat something and wait an hour or so if you aren't functional. <--- ahahahha professional opinion.

I didn't bother going through each one, someone else will come in with more passion.

I don't smoke weed! It's oh so bad for you.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Okay, this is not the typical weed should be legalized for 344303904 reasons. That debate is kind of over, it should be legalized.

But this thread is about what things will change once it is legalized?

I'll put up some basic questions and you give me your input on them.

1. How will police monitor people who smoke and drive?
2. What will be considered "safe" to drive after smoking?
3. How will they tell how much you have smoked/how impaired you are? (field sobriety tests don't mean shit in court because they are subjective, breathalyzer is the key to conviction for alcohol)
4. Can you smoke in public?
5. Can you smoke in a bar?
6. Can you smoke in a car?
7. Can you eat THC products in public?
8. Can you be arrested for "high and disorderly"?

More later. g2g
I would not, could not, smoke it in a box.
I could not, would not, with a fox.
I will not smoke it in a house.
I will not smoke it with a mouse.
I will not smoke it here or there.
I will not smoke it anywhere.

I do not smoke green weed and ham, I do not like it... bitch.

On a serious note, it should have the same laws as drinking, more or less.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Okay, this is not the typical weed should be legalized for 344303904 reasons. That debate is kind of over, it should be legalized.

But this thread is about what things will change once it is legalized?

I'll put up some basic questions and you give me your input on them.

1. How will police monitor people who smoke and drive? DUI just about sums that up.
2. What will be considered "safe" to drive after smoking? Not being high at the time. But that would be hard to tell since the weed tends to stay in your system for a long time.
3. How will they tell how much you have smoked/how impaired you are? (field sobriety tests don't mean shit in court because they are subjective, breathalyzer is the key to conviction for alcohol) Hard to answer this one.
4. Can you smoke in public? No.
5. Can you smoke in a bar? Yes, there should be weed cafes like in Amsterdam
6. Can you smoke in a car? No just like no drinking in a car.
7. Can you eat THC products in public? No, but then again it isnt like the cops are going to be stopping everybody for eating brownies in public.
8. Can you be arrested for "high and disorderly"? Yes, public intoxication.

More later. g2g
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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All rules = Same as alcohol!

It's hard to say about the driving part, because people who use medical marijuana sometimes need the high to be able to function in the first place. They don't get in to accidents frequently like drunk drivers or drivers who txt even.

There are meters to test how high you are, but really you should just eat something and wait an hour or so if you aren't functional. <--- ahahahha professional opinion.

I didn't bother going through each one, someone else will come in with more passion.

I don't smoke weed! It's oh so bad for you.
Exactly. If you get high as **** yesterday, you'll still fail a drug test as hard the next day. goo post though

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I would not, could not, smoke it in a box.
I could not, would not, with a fox.
I will not smoke it in a house.
I will not smoke it with a mouse.
I will not smoke it here or there.
I will not smoke it anywhere.

I do not smoke green weed and ham, I do not like it... bitch.

On a serious note, it should have the same laws as drinking, more or less.
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My answers are in the red.
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Old 01-12-2010, 01:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Okay, this is not the typical weed should be legalized for 344303904 reasons. That debate is kind of over, it should be legalized.

But this thread is about what things will change once it is legalized?

I'll put up some basic questions and you give me your input on them.

1. How will police monitor people who smoke and drive?

I don't know. How do they handle it in the Netherlands? Is it even a problem there?

2. What will be considered "safe" to drive after smoking?

Good question. In my world if you can drive fine I don't care what your'e on. I find marijuana effects vary alot more than alcohol for the person part of the variable. In general of course it increases the chances of accidents. My lame answer would be don't punish driving high but punish bad driving.

3. How will they tell how much you have smoked/how impaired you are? (field sobriety tests don't mean shit in court because they are subjective, breathalyzer is the key to conviction for alcohol)

All you can hope for is wait for the science/technology to come out I guess. Of course there's no incentive to develop one because marijuana isn't legal at all.

4. Can you smoke in public?

When I was in the Netherlands I think the custom was not be overtly visible with it. Bad form and all. Designated bars and parks would be fine. You can even make a 'density' law.

5. Can you smoke in a bar?

I'd make it up to the bars, and bars would to have signage to let people know

6. Can you smoke in a car?

If you ain't driving it any time soon


7. Can you eat THC products in public?

I'd say yes. Their pretty covert so there is no social propriety being broken and the effects wouldn't reach other people.

8. Can you be arrested for "high and disorderly"?

It shouldn't matter if you're high or even drunk for that matter. If you're sober and disorderly you're still disorderly. What constitutes disorderly conduct anyway??

More later. g2g
Yeah. People are pretty reluctant to accommodate new laws. I think pot not being legal has alot to do with just apathy and not wanting to have change a bit of the system. Especially in North America.
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Yeah. People are pretty reluctant to accommodate new laws. I think pot not being legal has alot to do with just apathy and not wanting to have change a bit of the system. Especially in North America.
I like your answer to #8 a lot...But that green text was a terrible time to read!
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If I bake special brownies at home, and eat one in public, who's going to know?

Laws regarding driving high should be the same as driving drunk, that is to say enforced in a martial law type of way because the state is desperate for money.
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If I bake special brownies at home, and eat one in public, who's going to know?

Laws regarding driving high should be the same as driving drunk, that is to say enforced in a martial law type of way because the state is desperate for money.
There is already a law for driving while high.

A DWI is driving while intoxicated = driving while drunk
A DUI is driving under the influence = driving while under the infleunce of "drugs"
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Yeah. People are pretty reluctant to accommodate new laws. I think pot not being legal has alot to do with just apathy and not wanting to have change a bit of the system. Especially in North America.
IMO, there's a little more to it than that, but thats a whole other thread.

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I like your answer to #8 a lot...But that green text was a terrible time to read!
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There is already a law for driving while high.

A DWI is driving while intoxicated = driving while drunk
A DUI is driving under the influence = driving while under the infleunce of "drugs"
#1. The entire DUI thing would cause problems because of the drug testing issues, however if someone is visibly intoxicated, than its self apparent.

#2. It should be treated the same as Rx drugs which are clearly labeled not to drive while taking the pills.

#3. Same as #1

#4,5,6. Smoking should be regulated to strictly in the home or in Cafes or Coffeebars, like Amsterdam.

#7. No one would know the difference if I was eating a "brownie" or another special goodie treat.

#8. Its been a long time since I got high so its tough to answer this question. However, I cannot recall being high and disorderly at the same time. If anything, I was extra orderly.
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