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post #21 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-23-2010, 01:56 PM
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Didnt catholics get mad when Sinead o'conner ripped up the pope's picture?

dont rightwing christians get mad when you say "happy holidays" instead of "merry xmas" ?

so why is it so amusing that some muslims will get angry when you publically degrade their prophet/god ?
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Well post the links and we will discuss it....Im not arguing that Muslims are the only ones that get butt hurt over nothing ...Im saying it is a little much to automaticly go to Jihad mode when South Park has an episode with Muhammad in it not even making fun of him
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I didnt see the outrage when Franklin graham was attacking muslims on Fox news spilling his racist bile being egged on by that carlson woman?
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/2010/0...s-about-islam/
To me religious extremists are pretty much the same regardless of their religion, but I think there's a difference between that link and the original subject of the thread.

The guy in your video claims that he and about one billion other organisms on this planet for some reason have discovered that the universe was created by a certain almighty being that has been interfering with our daily lives since the beginning of time, and that because of the fact that this group of organisms have made that discovery, this god favors them over organisms of the same species that believe in theories of the universe's existence that slightly differs from the truth, despite the fact that this god was the one who chose from the start who would discover the truth and who wouldn't, since he's almighty. Because of this, and because he thinks it's immoral to have been chosen by the god to have the wrong belief, the man in the video hopes that the god will favor his country, in which the majority knows the truth of how the world came into existence, in a long drawn out war against people who have the wrong belief, despite the fact that the god could have ended the war in a nanosecond due to his almighty status.

The people that the article is about have threatened (or "warned") two men with murder because they pictured some guy who has been dead for 1400 years who apparently isn't supposed to be pictured.

So to me the guy in your video seems just like a delusional clown while the people in the article seem like a very real threat.

Interesting though that they saw the episode... I wouldn't have expected South Park to be a favorite among militant religious fanatics.
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It is a cartoon show, I dont't know why people care what they do or say.


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To me religious extremists are pretty much the same regardless of their religion

Exactly.

And its not like it is ever going to stop. There will always be cartoons and people making fun of anything people take seriously. No one, not even god or allah is powerful enough to stop that.



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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6973966.ece

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58015

Click the above links, people are DYING because of people drawing cartoons of Muhammad. Whomever acts like drawing Muhammad and making fun of him is the same as making fun of Jesus, are incorrect. Should it be the same as making fun of Jesus or anything else? Absolutely, but it's not.

The reason why the network bleeped out his name and didn't show him, is because people who do are actually killed. Not just threats, but literally killed and gone after. This has happened multiple times in regard to drawing a cartoon of Muhammad, that's why the network bleeped it out, because these threats are more than just random mails, people actually die because of it.

Why do you think it takes a month or two for a Muslim from India to get an American Visa, even a work one? I know someone personally who is in India, he is a doctor, he is a Muslim, and it took him nearly two months to be accepted for an American work Visa, where as normally it takes no more than some days.

Muslims are dangerous people when it comes to their religion, not all of them of coruse, but many of them are, you can say this or that, but it's a fact that Muslims are literally killing people who make fun of Muhammad.
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yikes. this thread sucks from all angles!

funny how people............................... nevermind.

*runs full speed back to the UFC section*
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ah. so let allow them to make the rules because they are killing ppl.

so where does this slippery slope end?? can we even mention their existence?? what if they decide they want to kill ppl who do that too??

I dont negioate with terrorists, extremeists or radicals.

they should air the program however they want. if ppl are dying in a far away country then ppl running that country are responcible.

if they make attempts on anybody in north americas life. we should just deal with them

the funny thing is this group is based out of NEW YORK CITY.

giving in is the worst option. allowing fanatics even small victories is a bad thing IMO

REAL MUSLIMS DO NOT ACT LIKE THAT. YOU ARE GIVING THESE EXTREMEISTS FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT, CREDENCE AND VOICE BY ADHERRING TO THEIR RIDICULOUS DEMANDS. REAL MUSLIMS NEED TO STAND UP AND PUT THESE PPL DOWN THEMSELVES OR JUST BE CONTENT WITH BEING LABELED ALL TOGETHER WITH THEM.

Instead. the silent majority does nothing while ppl ruin and disgrace their religion

sorry for caps. but seriously.... wtf
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ah. so let allow them to make the rules because they are killing ppl.

so where does this slippery slope end?? can we even mention their existence?? what if they decide they want to kill ppl who do that too??

I dont negioate with terrorists, extremeists or radicals.

they should air the program however they want. if ppl are dying in a far away country then ppl running that country are responcible.

if they make attempts on anybody in north americas life. we should just deal with them

the funny thing is this group is based out of NEW YORK CITY.

giving in is the worst option. allowing fanatics even small victories is a bad thing IMO

REAL MUSLIMS DO NOT ACT LIKE THAT. YOU ARE GIVING THESE EXTREMEISTS FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT, CREDENCE AND VOICE BY ADHERRING TO THEIR RIDICULOUS DEMANDS. REAL MUSLIMS NEED TO STAND UP AND PUT THESE PPL DOWN THEMSELVES OR JUST BE CONTENT WITH BEING LABELED ALL TOGETHER WITH THEM.

Instead. the silent majority does nothing while ppl ruin and disgrace their religion

sorry for caps. but seriously.... wtf
Right, so, what would have happened if someone tried to kill, or did kill the creators of South Park, if they were to not have bleeped out all the things they did?

There are multiple cases of people getting killed for making fun of Muhammad, MULTIPLE CASES. Why kind of network would NOT censor something that has been kown to cause DEATH and MURDER in REAL LIFE. You want to blame the government or whatever for not finding these groups and putting them away, that's all fine and dandy, but people are literally dying because of it. The mindset of "oh, they should air it however they please", sounds nice, except for the whole murder thing.

Blame the government all you want for not dealing with these people, but these people are REAL, they do KILL and MURDER people who make fun of Muhammad, there are MULTIPLE cases of it. Facts are facts, and it's a fact that people who create comedic cartoons of Muhammad have been killed over it, and the network who hosts South Park is not going to take a chance of any such thing, over a simple cartoon show.

Oh, and for the part that I bolded, I'm 500% sure that if you created something that was going to be put on TV, and before you did, you recieved multiple death threats by a group of people who are known for murdering and killing others just like you for creating the exact same type of thing you are wanting to put on TV, your mindset would change, and you would either not air it, or censor it.

Words are strong until you actually face the thing you're talking about.
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