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post #111 of 203 (permalink) Old 01-29-2011, 12:43 AM
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I dunno, I just don't see a reason to have such weapons without the need to kill a bunch of people. I've shot both guns ar15 and ak47. First thing I thought was "jesus I could kill a lot of shit with this". I've owned a few rifles, 308, 30-30 and I've shot a lot including an sks. If I had to pick a best weapon to kill a large group of people I'd take the ar cause it's only 500$ or the ak 400$. But I wouldnt choose either for hunting over most traditional rifles. You don't need 30 rounds in a clip to go hunt animals. It's the presumption that I'd be buying an assault weapon to kill people that makes it immoral to me. If I can always defend myself with small arms anyways. Another problem i have is how easily such weapons can be converted into fully automatic weapons. I bet I could get one in an hour and it's not like I live in a third world country and that is frightening.

I'm not saying you guys are immoral and I'm not talking to you for disagreeing ;P truth be told I'm at a friends house and I'm 30 feet an a room away from an "immoral" weapon.. Not like I'm the most moral person anyways.

Also what's bullshit is that those assualt rifles are cheaper than the 45acps I'm looking at >.<



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I dunno, I just don't see a reason to have such weapons without the need to kill a bunch of people. I've shot both guns ar15 and ak47. First thing I thought was "jesus I could kill a lot of shit with this". I've owned a few rifles, 308, 30-30 and I've shot a lot including an sks. If I had to pick a best weapon to kill a large group of people I'd take the ar cause it's only 500$ or the ak 400$. But I wouldnt choose either for hunting over most traditional rifles. You don't need 30 rounds in a clip to go hunt animals. It's the presumption that I'd be buying an assault weapon to kill people that makes it immoral to me. If I can always defend myself with small arms anyways. Another problem i have is how easily such weapons can be converted into fully automatic weapons. I bet I could get one in an hour and it's not like I live in a third world country and that is frightening.

I'm not saying you guys are immoral and I'm not talking to you for disagreeing ;P truth be told I'm at a friends house and I'm 30 feet an a room away from an "immoral" weapon.. Not like I'm the most moral person anyways.

Also what's bullshit is that those assualt rifles are cheaper than the 45acps I'm looking at >.<

theres the problem in your mentality..... and im not saying this to be a dick. A hammer was made to make life easier.... to hammer things.... it was also made for war and to kill people or animals easier.... today its pretty much used just for putting nails into wood... but its origional intended use was killing and making things.... knives.... they were tools to make every day life easier... and be used to kill... today we still use them to eat steak and cut open boxes and such....

and to bring up the rifles you mentioned... the .30-30 is a 7.62x51... the .308 is a same size bullet but with a more pointed bullet, they are both 7.62x 51, but look different. An SKS round has the pointed bullet like a .308, but is 7.62x39.....



L-R 5.56x45, .30-30, .308



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so your hunting rifles are even bigger and more powerful then what the modern military uses now (M-16 is 5.56x45 aka .223, current issue AK's use 5.45x39)

so now all your talking about is capacity.... and possibility of making full auto.... well all things illegal are easy.... Coke, meth, crack and heroin are all illegal... but i bet i can get all of them faster then you get the proper parts and know how to make one of them full auto..... but again doing illegal shit is stupid, and only idiots do things like that....

capacity.... well to me, shooting guns is a whooooooooooole lot of fun!!! and i wuold love to add as many rounds as i possibly could to make my fun last longer!!! Hell my Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm has a capacity of 17+1.... thats higher then my SKS "assault rifle" that only has 10.... sure i can modify it, but i like my stuff origional too. well minus the scope =D


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Sitting here with some friends... One has an ak47 the other an sks... Me? A 357

They are all cleaning theirs and stuff.. I'm stroking my barrel. I still concede it's immoral.. But I'm think about buying an ar15 >.<



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So guys. I want to POSSIBLY buy an M14/M1A with my tax returns... Anyone know of any good websites or at least how much I should be looking to pay? I'd really like to get a black one. Possibly one with a rail system on it because I plan on this gun being my baby. I've always wanted one. Halp?
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I don't know much about those other than they are mad expensive. My broheem should be by today though so I'll ask him.

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I've noticed they're mad expensive. I'm pretty much aiming to get as close to $1,000 as possible now and the closest I've gotten is $1300. I think I'm just going to buy a stock black one and then outfit it by myself over the years so I can put as much love and attention into it as I want and make it wholely mine... Really hope I can get ahold of one :3
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I definitely wouldn't mind a M1a to go along with my guns. But 308 is pricey, and so are m1a's, lol. I like to shoot a ton of rounds when I go shooting, that's why .223, and 5.45x39 are sweet. If I was gonna hunt, I think i'd get a Savage 10BAS in 308. But for targets and plinking, they're just to much for me.

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IF/When I get one I plan on using it for everything from hunting to target practice. I don't mind it only being a 10/20 mag either. I'm more interested in being accurate and being able to hit targets at a long distance than being able to spil a bunch of lead down range. Plus, IMO, the M14/M1A all decked out with a rail system/scope etc is one of the sexiest guns I've ever seen.



Seriously holy shit. I don't plan on mine looking like that, but damn if I could afford it I'd do it and then just stare at it all day.

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duracoat it dudez, the ounces, lol. Thats a whole lot of tactical on that gun.

I never shoot above 150 yards, so a AR/AK works great for me. Once I get some play money, I think something long range would be fun, with a big old 12x scope, problem is I shoot at my house mostly, max 90 yard little range area, so i'd have to find a nice spot up a logging road or soemthing to hit out to 500+yards. In the mean time, my next build plan is a 7.5" Ar pistol in 9mm, with a AAC suppressor. So it should be dead quiete, and fun for plinking around.

What state do you live in? I'll check around for some m1a's locally, you can usually score a better deal than shipping and ffl transfer.

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I live in NW Ohio (between Lima and Toledo). I checked a couple places. There's actually a gun store downstairs below my apartment LOL but they're never open aside form w hat Federal law mandates them to be open (like an hour a day or some shit). Found a website that says they're like $1300 there. There's another store across town that they're around the same price, but I've never been there and I didn't even know it existed until I saw the site.

I mainly want to get it for target shooting, too. I want to get into long range marksman shooting. Not so much competition or anything, just as a hobby. I've always been interested in guns and stuff for the precision aspect of it, not so much the assault side lol. I'd rather shoot laser beams and drop a target at 200+ yards in a single shot than go hog wild and turn it to swiss cheese close range. If there's another (read: Cheaper lol) gun that'll accomplish the same thing as an M1A then I'm open to suggestions and stuff. You guys seem to know your shit. I want something that's reliable, customizable and deadly accurate. I'd prefer to have a SA as opposed to a BA (don't really want a hunting rifle, I'd rather be able to rattle off 10 shots as fast as I can center them as opposed to having to rechamber and then reset fully) but a BA will do as well. Really just something I'm going to be able to be accurate with when I get good with it. Something capable of long range and something reliable enough that I'm not going to constantly have to do maintenance on.

As far as the tactical goes that's not something I'm dead set on doing, I just want to know my gun is THAT customizable. Like the M4 SOP Mod picture back there. I want to be able to have a whole bunch of different shit on my gun if I so choose so if I'm ever like "Eh, I'm bored" then I can work on it for hours and make it look like a new thing lol. I'm all for just clean, simple aesthetics as well, though. So having a naked gun that looks great is no problem. The M1A is one of the few guns I think looks amazing just by it's self though.

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