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post #51 of 203 (permalink) Old 09-09-2010, 01:20 PM
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also, its kinda funny, some are now marketing .410gs 00 Buck shells as "Defensive" rounds. so they should be more readily available. another reason to now have a Judge!
Yea, flying razors would kick someones ass, lol. I think the magnum edition can shoot the 5 pellet buckshot which would be sweet as a defensive gun. I was just thinking that i've seen a few vids of cops missing a shot at close range and end up in deep trouble themselves. If they had the scatter, the aim wouldn't be as important in the heat of the moment at close range. .45acp all the way for anything above 10 yds though.


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The sport of this is really getting ahold of me but just have to find rounds cheaper. It is to easy to shoot 100 rounds and that cost $30. I want to shoot atleast twice a week and thats $60 a week $240 a month plus gas.
Yea, shooting my .45 is the same, gotta spend 20 bucks for 50 rnds. I did buy a .22lr conversion slide for my 1911, so I can buy 500rnds for 20 bucks. It's a great alternative if you like to shoot a ton, but still nothing like shooting a .45 round.
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when i lived abroad for a few years i had a Smith n Wesson .38 revovler, thing was big and scary as hell, never had to use it but had to make it known i had it so ppl wouldnt mess around with me as i was living in a 3rd world country and messing with "Gringos" and stealing from them, is pretty commonplace.

Oh and i bought it for $100 from an ex military officer who needed the $ badly. It had no safety was a pretty badass gun overall.
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when i lived abroad for a few years i had a Smith n Wesson .38 revovler, thing was big and scary as hell, never had to use it but had to make it known i had it so ppl wouldnt mess around with me as i was living in a 3rd world country and messing with "Gringos" and stealing from them, is pretty commonplace.

Oh and i bought it for $100 from an ex military officer who needed the $ badly. It had no safety was a pretty badass gun overall.
Glocks do not have safteys and that at first made me kinda wierd about buying a gun without a safty. But being the way they are made it is safe as long as one is not in the chamber. It only takes a quick sec to get one loaded so I do not see a downside on this feature. Just one of them things that give the glock there flush look.
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when i lived abroad for a few years i had a Smith n Wesson .38 revovler, thing was big and scary as hell, never had to use it but had to make it known i had it so ppl wouldnt mess around with me as i was living in a 3rd world country and messing with "Gringos" and stealing from them, is pretty commonplace.

Oh and i bought it for $100 from an ex military officer who needed the $ badly. It had no safety was a pretty badass gun overall.
bet the name of the gun was a S&W model 10 i love that gun. Too nice to carry though. I still use the hk 45c.

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Went to the range again and did so much better. It is amazing, Out of no where it felt like something entered my brain and gave me some common sence. After doing a quick few shots I had a new feel for the gun. I learned to squeeze the trigger and not just pull it and got my breathing down a little better. The bullet actually goes where I aim it now not just somewhere in the general target area. I am excited to go back and try to shoot from the max yards because I was hitting center at half way. The sport of this is really getting ahold of me but just have to find rounds cheaper. It is to easy to shoot 100 rounds and that cost $30. I want to shoot atleast twice a week and thats $60 a week $240 a month plus gas. If i join the club around here they give %10 off on case ammo so I might need to check how cheap that is. They also have an MP5K for rent. I was a big modern warefare fan and loved that gun. Anyone shoot one of those? I am wondering if the experiance is worth it or its a waste of sixty bucks to shoot like 60 rounds.
HK MP5 is ALOT of fun to shoot! i got to shoot one once and it was awesome. shooting a fully auto is something that needs to be experienced.

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Glocks do not have safteys and that at first made me kinda wierd about buying a gun without a safty. But being the way they are made it is safe as long as one is not in the chamber. It only takes a quick sec to get one loaded so I do not see a downside on this feature. Just one of them things that give the glock there flush look.
im so hung over so ima try and explain it, but ill probably fook it up. the lil switch thing on the trigger is kinda a saftey, that has to be pushed down for the trigger to pull, also with a Double Action, a saftey kinda isnt needed, cuz its such a long deliberate pull before it fires. im pretty sure you have a Double Action/Single Action, in that the first shot is DA, and after that first shot the rest are SA. a saftey was used like on a 1911 it was meant to be loaded and cocked, so if the soldier need to use it, just pull it from the holster, flip of the thumb takes the saftey off and ready to fire in SA right away. my PX4 the saftey is also a decocker, so if its cocked and i put on the saftey, it decocks the hammer and puts it back into DA.

i hope i said that right and it makes sense to ya.. i seriously have the mental capacity of a stapler at the moment.....

And box, yeah the Judge with the 3" chamber can handle the ones with 5 pellets, they later called em The Magnum, i got mine before that so it doesnt say magnum on it anywhere, but it does have the 3" chamber.

and for ammo, check out this place http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.40_S&W

i havent bought from there myself, but from a gun forum i go to also people there have used it.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index....40-sw-fmj-ammo

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Glocks do not have safteys and that at first made me kinda wierd about buying a gun without a safty. But being the way they are made it is safe as long as one is not in the chamber. It only takes a quick sec to get one loaded so I do not see a downside on this feature. Just one of them things that give the glock there flush look.
Yeah my CZ P-06 doesn't have a safety either. Only a decocker that makes the first shot kind of half DA and half SA. Doesn't really bother me because if its loaded it's probably going to get shot. And bringing the hammer down to make it a safe DA isn't hard anyways. Interesting though, because I don't think that Glock makes guns that are hammer fired only striker fire pistols.
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Wow, Went to the range tonight and I have to say it was good and bad. First came the bad, remington UMC ammo freakin sucks my balls majorly. Not only did it seem harder to load they really crapped up my gun with its dirtyness. The tip of my gun had residue on it after only a few mags. I saved a penny a bullet and wish I did not have another 100+ rounds. But the good now, It seems my gun is broken in and shooting more smoothly with less recoil. After a couple hundred rounds it just felt smoother. So it took a good 350 rounds or so to break in. After that being my third trip and about 500 rounds I had to clean my gun. Hopefully I did a good enough job. That is my worry now, Hoping it is clean and lubed enough for next trip. I am happy my gun is broken in for my ccw class now. I am thinking of getting a 9mm for my range shooting because this .40 cal is getting expensive. I think I spent a couple hundred just to shoot this past week. But I am trying to really get myself used to shooting. Trying to build my gun holding muscles.
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If guns would be allowed in my country, I would be shot by immigrants within the next week.

I have never seen a real gun, but I felt it on my head when somebody beat me down with it
That seems unbelievable to me that you've never even seen a gun. No disrespect, it's just something that I guess I took for granted here in the U.S.
I grew up with guns in the house. BB gun when I was 5. .410 shotgun when I was 8. .270 rifle I bought with my paper route money at age 13.
I've added many more since then. Mostly used for hunting but you never know when you'll need them for self defense. I have a wife and 3 daughters at home so when I'm working nights, it gives me peace knowing they have those guns and they know how to use them if they need to.
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That seems unbelievable to me that you've never even seen a gun. No disrespect, it's just something that I guess I took for granted here in the U.S.
I grew up with guns in the house. BB gun when I was 5. .410 shotgun when I was 8. .270 rifle I bought with my paper route money at age 13.
This was my son's third birthday present:



I taught him about holding it still, and about gentle trigger technique. By his fourth birthday, he could knock down small swingers at 10 yards almost 100% of the time. When we go to the range, people stop shooting to watch him knocking them down, and they always have huge grins on their faces. It makes me a proud dad.

He loves to shoot .22's, but doesn't like the bigger stuff. But my daughter, who isn't even three yet... she loves ANYTHING that makes a bang. I hold the AR15, and let her pull the trigger. She'll do a full mag-dump, and then ask to do it again.

And my wife... years ago, we won free entry to a submachinegun training course. Full-auto Uzis, and 5-gallon buckets full of ammo. By the end of the day, everyone on the range had nicknamed her "headshot".

But as for other people never seeing a gun... a lot of the world vilifies and demonizes guns. It's a tough thing for people to accept that there are heartless bastards out there who will murder and **** you without caring. They can't handle the helplessness of it, so in an attempt to have control over the situation, they blame the weapons, not the people. After all, if you can blame crime on guns, then if you ban guns, that will stop the crime, right? When they do that, and crime doesn't stop (or even go down), then they start banning more and more things. But because they would feel so helpless thinking that other people were the problem, they never say "Huh, I guess that banning guns doesn't work."

I once had the privilege of speaking with the man who was the deputy mayor of the Olympic Village during the Munich massacre. He told me that they had intentionally not put armed guards there, wanting to show the world that they were an enlightened society, and that they had no need of things like that. Then he told us about the tragedy, how it unfolded, and how he had to meet with and address the families of the victims.

Then he said something surprising - rather than taking the classic liberal approach of blaming the weapons, he said this: "What I learned was that no matter how enlightened we were, there would always be other people who were not."

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That's awesome you take your kids out shooting. The quote at the end says it all though. Just because you and the people you know are good people, it doesn't mean that there aren't bad people out there. Like has been said many times before, If you take guns from law abiding people only the criminals will have guns.
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