MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos

MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos (http://www.mmaforum.com/)
-   The Lounge (http://www.mmaforum.com/lounge/)
-   -   Guns!!!! (http://www.mmaforum.com/lounge/81260-guns.html)

UrbanBounca 08-05-2010 12:52 AM

Guns!!!!
 
I'm currently in the process of becoming a police officer. On August 28th, I'm participating in a pistol shooting safety course, which will hopefully allow me to obtain my concealed carry permit. I've recently received all the information for the class, and they state that you don't need your own firearm, as they'll have a few for rental during range time. As my concealed weapon, I'll probably carry an 8-round Ruger or something of the sort, but honestly, I don't have a lot of gun knowledge.

When I attend the class, what should I try out? I'll be purchasing a pistol sometime sooner, than later, after the class.

PheelGoodInc, your response would definately be appreciated with you already being an officer. What do you carry as your concealed, if you do have one? What do you carry as your duty pistol?

Like I said, I'm going to get a good start at this class, but it's only a day class, and I'll only be able to use a few pistols. I need a few good recommendations. :thumb02:

Gluteal Cleft 08-05-2010 12:59 AM

See if there's a concealed carry forum site for your area. If so, they're usually pretty willing to let you go to a shoot and try all of the various guns, and see which one works best for you.

I just did a google search, and it looks like this might be the place.

There's a whole lot of personal preference involved in pistols, and what other people like won't necessarily make you happy. You just have to put your hands on them and try them out. You can go to a range and rent different models, but it's cheaper and more fun to get together with other people who carry and try theirs.

americanfighter 08-05-2010 01:07 AM

Hey I got my CCL too. I know alot about guns have many of them and am a competitive shooter in the USPSA and GSSF competitions and have won several matches. Also going to a combat pistol traink g class next weekend.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions.

Guns to look at are springfeild 1911s and xd's Smith and wesson revolvers also if your hand is big enough for them the new hk 45s are great.

This thread may attract some flamers so it would be ideal to discuss this through private messages.

UrbanBounca 08-05-2010 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gluteal Cleft (Post 1236850)
See if there's a concealed carry forum site for your area. If so, they're usually pretty willing to let you go to a shoot and try all of the various guns, and see which one works best for you.

I just did a google search, and it looks like this might be the place.

There's a whole lot of personal preference involved in pistols, and what other people like won't necessarily make you happy. You just have to put your hands on them and try them out. You can go to a range and rent different models, but it's cheaper and more fun to get together with other people who carry and try theirs.

I appreciate the input. I checked on that forum, and it's nearly completely inactive. I may join, we'll see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by americanfighter (Post 1236852)
Hey I got my CCL too. I know alot about guns have many of them and am a competitive shooter in the USPSA and GSSF competitions and have won several matches. Also going to a combat pistol traink g class next weekend.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions.

Guns to look at are springfeild 1911s and xd's Smith and wesson revolvers also if your hand is big enough for them the new hk 45s are great.

This thread may attract some flamers so it would be ideal to discuss this through private messages.

Again, appreciate the input. I believe the Springfield 1911 is about the size I'm really looking for in a concealed weapon, but they're pretty expensive, starting around $800 from what I'd seen. Right now, I'm not a big revolver fan, but that may change after actually firing one. The HK 45's, like the 1911's, are pretty expensive. I know you get what you pay for when it comes to firearms, but what would you recommend for a bit of a cheaper price, including used?

TraMaI 08-05-2010 01:46 AM

Can't go wrong with a USP!

americanfighter 08-05-2010 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrbanBounca (Post 1236868)
I appreciate the input. I checked on that forum, and it's nearly completely inactive. I may join, we'll see.



Again, appreciate the input. I believe the Springfield 1911 is about the size I'm really looking for in a concealed weapon, but they're pretty expensive, starting around $800 from what I'd seen. Right now, I'm not a big revolver fan, but that may change after actually firing one. The HK 45's, like the 1911's, are pretty expensive. I know you get what you pay for when it comes to firearms, but what would you recommend for a bit of a cheaper price, including used?

Look for an fn highpower or browning highpower they are what evolved into the 1911.

If you are looking for good deals on used guns go here to gunbroker.com

Here is what i carry
For the summer I carry a Springfield 1911 champion light weight operator.
In the winter months I carry a hk45 compact. I can't conceal it well in the summer because
it's too big.
Also I carry a smith&wesson m&p revolver in my pocket when I can't carry my 1911 or
HK.

You may want to look at a glock 19 or XD compact they are a little bigger but cheaper. And they don't fail. These guns can be beat to hell and still work

Also if you do get a 1911 only get Springfield they are the best balance quality and
reliability in a 1911 also buy Wilson combat mags instead of the regular
mags. The cheaper mags will cause the gun to jam.

Also without a doubt you should buy a s&w J frame snub nose revolver with a pocket holster. There will be many times where for some reason or another you won't be able to
wear a gun on your hip that's when you use this in you pocket. They are hard to shoot because of their size but with som practice you should get it down ok. Also they only carry 5 rounds but that's better than nothing also more times than not when using it you won't have to fire a single round. I and a few of my friends and my father have been in bad situations before when threatened and as soon as the criminal saw the gun they bugged out. You may find yourself caring the j frame more than you think because it is more convenient easier to conceal and more comfortable to carry.

So with your price range you are looking at a glock 19 or xd 9 compact
Plus a j frame revolver.

Also you need to shoot the different calibers and decide what you want. 45acp is the more powerful round than the 9mm but kicks more. However the kick witness the 45 is a push instead of a snap or flip like the 9mm. The two cuna I listed are 9mm both glocks and XDs come in a compact form with other calibers.

Your j fram revolver should be a 357 magnum. If you get a 357 magnum you can shoot either the 38 special round or the much more powerful 357 round out of the same gun because the bullets are the same diameter only the 357 round is longer.

Hope that helps

xeberus 08-05-2010 04:13 PM

glock 23 is a gun i love.

KnockinUout 09-05-2010 05:21 PM

Guns!!!!
 
So I just bought my first gun a week ago. It is a glock 23 .40 cal, Felt the best in my hands and seemed good size to carry when I get my CCW. I went to the range for the first time today, It was great. But I have a few questions. First is after recovering my rounds I saw that about half were clean inside the shell and the other half looked like the inside of a chimney. Is this because the gun is brand new and the clean rounds were the first ones fired and after a few they just got dirty from use? Also after my third mag I had my last round go crooked and jam, popped right out no problem and the gun was fine after that. That jam should be normal for a semi-auto pistol right? Over all it got some stress off of my shoulders. Any advice would be great. I did pretty well at half way down the range, any farther was a miss for me. I used winchester 180gr ammo. Any suggestions on better ammo or what not to use? I think I saw a 100 round box at wal-mart for either 30 or $40. I paid $30 for 50 rounds at gander mountain so wal-mart seems to have a good deal, It was either winchester or remington. Lets hear the gun talk.

xeberus 09-05-2010 06:32 PM

:thumb02: :thumb02: :thumb02: :thumb02: :thumb02: :thumb02:








good call!

well i didnt buy mine new, but its been smooth using. the only jamming problems ive ever seen or heard from a glock 23 are a soft recoil spring, magazine issue (worn spring as well causing jamming issues via loading rounds) and ive heard if you "limp wrist" the gun it can happen etc. as for ammo any hollow point from 155-180 grain, made by a major manufacturer will do. Winchester Ranger SXT, Federal HST or Hydra-Shok, and Remington Golden Sabres are some of the top choices.

Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) ammo is for target shooting. Winchester, Remington, Magtech, it really doesn't matter for the most part.

Budhisten 09-06-2010 11:51 AM

You have absolutely NO idea how absurd and surreal this kind of gun-talk sounds like to people outside the USA :P

Interesting though, disturbing as it is hehe


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:49 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.8 , Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2