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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 11-07-2010, 03:58 PM Thread Starter
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Would I likely get in trouble with the law if I punched someone who was annoying me?

Say you see someone you didn't like and you punched them in the face but they were with a friend/friends and they decided to testify agianst you saying you attacked them unprovoked. If they all 'teamed up' to say you attacked the person unprovoked where is the law likely to stand on that? Would I have any weight to my argument if I said it was provoked even if the others were saying unanimously that I was the aggressor? Could I say they are in cahoots and have it offer any sway to the dispute?

Is it likely to get to court? Would it be worth the punched person taking the time to put it to court if it was just one smack in the chops (I know very little about such legal things)?

I'm only talking worst case. It's just I know some people who love to mouth off and I think it would take a good smack in the chops to shut them up. They are weak and are no threat to myself the only repercussion I would be worried about would be if they tried to 'gang up' on me legally and press charges.

I'm just putting it out there as a hypothetical to see what the likely eventuality would be. I don;t plan on going out with the intention of beating someone up it's just if someone provokes me I want to know how much risk it would be to give them a little jab so I should know whether I should definately restrain myself or not.

I imagine more likely than not they wouldn't press charges but just saying what are the chances? If they were high then I'd prob have to think twice. If low I'm thinking a quick hook to the jaw on a street with no cameras were I to catch them mouthing off at me could knock some sense in to them and prevent them from talking shit to me.

In such an eventuality I wouldn't do it right away. I'd advise them calmly to cease their chatter lest they regret it and if after that warning then give them a little hook as some corporal punishment.

So if they were with their friends and they wanted to report me is it likely I could get in trouble for that?
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probably, especially if they knew you. however the courts hate groups of people against one, so if you can get them to attack you it pretty much exonerates your actions.

but just by walking up and punching someone i the face... very bad decision, worst case scenario you go to jail, get raped, then cant find a job because you are a felon.



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Say you see someone you didn't like and you punched them in the face but they were with a friend/friends and they decided to testify agianst you saying you attacked them unprovoked.
You DID attack them unprovoked so they would just be telling the truth.

In any case it depends on if they contact the police or not. If you decide to punch someone "because you don't like them" or becaue they are "mouthing off" and they call the cops, yeah you are screwed. You'll be looking at assault charges and the only question is which kind of assault which will depend on how badly they are hurt.

Lots of people won't press charges in that situation but if they do you have no reasonable defense.
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Ok, but if it's my word against there and it wasn't on camera would they still have the upper hand if it was like 2 of them?

Could I not just say they are out to get me and reducing it to a their word against yours scenario?

Also couldn't I just say they are lying if there is no proof to say I was anywhere near them at the time of the incident?
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Ok, but if it's my word against there and it wasn't on camera would they still have the upper hand if it was like 2 of them?

Could I not just say they are out to get me and reducing it to a their word against yours scenario?

Also couldn't I just say they are lying if there is no proof to say I was anywhere near them at the time of the incident?
depends.

word against word is 1 vs 1. 2 or more against yours it looks bad, especially if they have bruises or damage/injury that is easily seen. in fact id say you're ****ed in such a situation. it goes to "reasonable person" standard and it would see you as guilty.



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Ok, but if it's my word against there and it wasn't on camera would they still have the upper hand if it was like 2 of them?

Could I not just say they are out to get me and reducing it to a their word against yours scenario?

Also couldn't I just say they are lying if there is no proof to say I was anywhere near them at the time of the incident?
If there are multiple witnesses and the guy has some physical evidence that he was punched (even just a little bruising or something) then yes, you are not going have much success with an "everybody but me is lying" defense.

If it is only you and the punchee you have a chance but you still have to explain why some guy would lie about you hitting him (and have the bruises to prove it). It is extremely rare that someone would do that so that is usually tough to sell to the cops unless there is some other context (i.e. guy punched is crazy/drunk/has a history of doing it).
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Technically that is assault. Though if the person doesn't file charges then you aren't in trouble. If they do file charges then you are indeed in trouble at that point!

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ok, this is making me re-evaluate such an eventuality.

I'm thinking intimidating them would probably be a better course of action then.

Then you could cooerce them to either shut up or provoke them to attack you so then the law would be on your side .

The likelihood of attack is really low though because the people in question are serious pussies they are just snide and two-faced.

You know the beta male types who like to talk about you behind your back but won't say anything to you unless they were drunk and get a bit of dutch courage.
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ok, this is making me re-evaluate such an eventuality.

I'm thinking intimidating them would probably be a better course of action then.

Then you could cooerce them to either shut up or provoke them to attack you so then the law would be on your side .

The likelihood of attack is really low though because the people in question are serious pussies they are just snide and two-faced.

You know the beta male types who like to talk about you behind your back but won't say anything to you unless they were drunk and get a bit of dutch courage.
If some dude is really annoying you to the point you want a physical confrontation there is no way to do it without risking charges unless you get him to swing at you first.

If he is annoying you, then annoy him and do it to the point where he gets mad enough to take a swing at you (or push you or soemthing vaguely physical even if not an actual punch). If you really think that is impossible because he won't do it then you need to learn to live with his annoyance or risk charges. Simple as that.
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Either that or there is another option, walk away. If a person is annoying you then there is nothing saying you don't have to walk away. If the guy starts to follow then it becomes a problem!

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