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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 11-16-2010, 09:59 AM Thread Starter
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Violent games blamed for choking

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au...d-for-choking/

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A MARCOOLA father has warned other parents about the dangers of homicidal video games and blood sports after learning his 13-year-old son choked a classmate unconscious.

The father said he had no idea his son was engaged in a dangerous Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC)-inspired “game” called tap-out until the incident at Coolum State High last week.

Wishing to stay anonymous but determined to get his message across, the father said he had now banned his son from watching bloodthirsty video games and movies, as well as the popular UFC.

He urged other parents to do the same, having blamed the brutal mixed marital arts sport and ultra violent video games and movies for his son’s behaviour.

“My main message is keep an eye on what kids are actually taking into their system,” he said.

“They’re developing young adults and this (violent behaviour) is not a character trait you want them to grow into and carry forward into adulthood.”

The impassioned plea came as Associate Professor of Education Michael Nagel, a University of the Sunshine Coast-based child behaviour specialist, warned that a growing number of studies were drawing a link between aggressive behaviour in children and violent media.

The Daily revealed on Wednesday that Coolum State High had suspended the Marcoola father’s son after the incident in an unsupervised classroom on November 3.

Tap-out involves a student placing a chokehold on another student from behind.

As in the UFC, the attacker is meant to stop choking when the person in the chokehold taps him.

In the Coolum State High incident, which Education Queensland said it was investigating, 13-year-old Zac Andrew was rendered unconscious and hit his head hard on the ground.

Zac’s parents, John-Paul and Kylie, blasted the school for not calling an ambulance and claimed it had tried to cover up the incident.

The Marcoola couple also said Zac was attacked, although the father of the other boy claimed Zac was a willing participant in the game, based on what the school had told him.

While the father labelled it a “stupid game” that went horribly wrong, he said the school was right to suspend his son for 10 days, and he apologised for the grief the boy had caused.

Sunshine Coast-based mixed martial arts promoter Chris McMahon was shocked to learn Year 8 kids were playing tap-out.

“I’m pretty horrified to hear something like that going on, and it’s not a game. It’s something very serious,” he said.

A UFC spokeswoman said the organisation was concerned by the Coolum State High incident, but it appeared to be an isolated incident more closely resembling school bullying.

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This stuff always makes me chuckle... Parents looking for scape-goats to justify their kids behaviour is all it is.

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From what I can tell, watching Quentin Tarantino movies and playing Grand Theft Auto is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for raising a violent kid.

I'm not a parent, so I really have no idea where these parts are coming from in trying to protect their kids. But it seems to me that there are probably more important things to regulate then the TV shows that your kids are watching, or their internet use.

Maybe the parents should consider enrolling their kid in a boxing class or a BJJ class. I'm not saying "boys will be boys," but kids who like choking other kids and getting into fights are probably better off burning their energy under the supervision of trained instructors.

Also, if the school did attempt to cover up the incident, than that's a problem all its own. It sounds like they were generally negligent, if kids were doing this on site, so I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they tried to cover their ass.



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[FONT="Times New Roman"]From what I can tell, watching Quentin Tarantino movies and playing Grand Theft Auto is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for raising a violent kid.
Indeed it is not, but violent games/movies may be a trigger. We (humans) learn from what we see, if we didn't any educational TV-program wouldn't make any sense. But the context in which we see something is important on how we interpret it. So if a parent watches an MMA event together with its kid (it shouldn't be too young though) and explains that it is a sport where the athletes even if they are in competition have to care about their opponents' health, the kid would probably not become violent, but if a kid that watches an MMA event is raised in an environment where kids bully each other it might adapt what it has seen in that event and try the techniques shown.

My main message is keep an eye on what kids are actually taking into their system,

It's right what this father said, but it's only one part of the problem. The real problem is that a lot of parents don't really raise and educate their children anymore, but think that putting the kids in front of a gaming computer and leaving them there on their own is enough, instead of spending some time and playing with the kids themselves and putting the kids in a sports club or something alike where they learn how to behave in a social environment.
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That choking game is waaaaaay older than MMA or graphically violent video games. It was already old when kids at my school started playing it in 8th grade, which would have been 1992 or so. When we played it the object wasn't violence, it was the weird ass dreams you'd have when you were out for a few seconds.

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The bigger problem isn't even these games or UFC or whatever.

It's more of the fact that kids these days are growing more and more into sociopaths.

In every sense of the word without exaggeration.

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sheet kids were playing the choking game when i was a kid.



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i remember watching this chris rock bit a while back lol, thats the thing i hate about bloody aussies most of the people always find something to complain about or try to make a nuiscence of themselves, i just makes us look like D-bags im just glad it wasn't on the gold coast or i would heel hook that dad


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That choking game is waaaaaay older than MMA or graphically violent video games. It was already old when kids at my school started playing it in 8th grade, which would have been 1992 or so. When we played it the object wasn't violence, it was the weird ass dreams you'd have when you were out for a few seconds.
haha yea I remember that game, did that back in 6th grade or so in the early 90's :P

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