Originally Posted by VincePierce
i seriously doubt as many ppl would get shot in america if firearms were banned. i think it would inevitably affect murder rates. what you are missing is the affect of a ban on existing culture. saying americans kill more by nature dont change this. not that i agree with the premise anyways.
lets not get into this one. my hearts not in arguing against your dads actions. altho to be honest i would argue that legal firearms makes it more likely the criminals will arm themselves and shoot somebody. if they had thrown down you could well both be dead now.
well think like a gang banger here. A gang banger is going to to a city and become a robber. Now in city a they have a ban on guns and i can get a gun illegally, in city b guns are legal and there is a distinct possibility that the citizens in the area are armed. Now which city do you think he will pick. Chances are he will go to city A and prey on the weak.
even if the gang banger doesn't have a gun the fact that he is young muscled up means he could easily prey on the weaker population such as the women elderly and handicap. guns level the playing field if a woman elderly or handicap person has a gun they can fend of a 6,2 230 strong man.
Instead of thinking how many people are robbed at gun point or killed with a gun think how many people are robbed or killed period.
in short if a society is unarmed it has no way of defending it self and thus is more vulnerable. Also these criminal would get their guns illegally any way.