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post #41 of 107 (permalink) Old 11-30-2010, 10:00 PM
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Lets take Mexico for example, it's near impossible to own a gun there, yet it's a warzone. It doesn't matter if guns are legal or illegal, it's the society the guns are in.

Apparently, you guys in England aren't dealing with the drug problem we are here. With drugs comes people getting shot over those drugs. End of story.
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Lets take Mexico for example, it's near impossible to own a gun there, yet it's a warzone. It doesn't matter if guns are legal or illegal, it's the society the guns are in.

Apparently, you guys in England aren't dealing with the drug problem we are here. With drugs comes people getting shot over those drugs. End of story.
true. I have a friend who was in homicide investigation department of the police force. He said he solved about 90% of his cases with 2 questions.

1. Who has he been buying his drugs from
2. Who has he been sleeping with that he shouldn't have.

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Plus if we ban guns, the Duracoat guys would shit a brick, you'd have run and gunnin tactical maneuvers all over the US.
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Lets take Mexico for example, it's near impossible to own a gun there, yet it's a warzone. It doesn't matter if guns are legal or illegal, it's the society the guns are in.

Apparently, you guys in England aren't dealing with the drug problem we are here. With drugs comes people getting shot over those drugs. End of story.
of course we got drugs. we got kids in camden selling openly in the street. but if they carried guns and had turf wars the police would stamp on it.

as for mexico, this is besides the point. if guns were illegal every single tosser you hate would be shot on sight or theyd have to get rid of them. it wipes out the bloods/crips/ms13 etc over night. ok theyd still exist, but they aint driving round cali looking to cap ppl for initiation.

imagine a world with no guns apart from the police. and dont tell me theyd just go round bulying the populace. the amount of shit they gotta deal with now on a shoot is ridiculous. if they had to explain shooting anyone who didnt have a gun itd be a nightmare.

im telling you folks. like it or not, the idea of killing ppl with a knife or a bat would make you think twice. how may drive by knifings do you get?

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4. explain better. are you talking about getting the police to shoot them on sight?

here in blighty , if the police know you got an illegal firearm they will kick your door down and if you pull any shit youl get wiped out. if you go out in public with a gun, then if anyone sees that, you are talking firearms team and loudspeakers, with you in the cross hairs. if you do it in london underground your likely to get anti terrorism on you.

of course some ppl still have guns, but they aint stupid enough to expose themselves and when murder in daylight does happen they are looking at 16 years.

clear-up rates for serious crimes like murder and **** remain very high.

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Lets take Mexico for example, it's near impossible to own a gun there, yet it's a warzone. It doesn't matter if guns are legal or illegal, it's the society the guns are in.

Apparently, you guys in England aren't dealing with the drug problem we are here. With drugs comes people getting shot over those drugs. End of story.
england has plenty of drugs.

also, the real truth is that with ILLEGAL drugs comes people committing thefts and violence over those drugs because of the high profits of smuggling stuff you can't buy legally. we don't see people shooting each other in the street over distributing vodka on the corner. but during prohibition, smuggling alcohol was a massive part of gang activity and huge amounts of violence were associated with it. legalization with regulation wiped all that out. it's the fact that it's illegal which makes it the domain of criminals who are of course going to employ criminal methods.

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here in blighty , if the police know you got an illegal firearm they will kick your door down and if you pull any shit youl get wiped out. if you go out in public with a gun, then if anyone sees that, you are talking firearms team and loudspeakers, with you in the cross hairs. if you do it in london underground your likely to get anti terrorism on you.

of course some ppl still have guns, but they aint stupid enough to expose themselves and when murder in daylight does happen they are looking at 16 years.

clear-up rates for serious crimes like murder and **** remain very high.
well as the saying goes "when seconds count police are only minutes away."

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well as the saying goes "when seconds count police are only minutes away."
well of course you gotta call the police, they have the guns. i think when it comes to my family ill take out the middle man.



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well as the saying goes "when seconds count police are only minutes away."
dude im never going to convince you of this, but look into it. thats all im saying. it is different living in a country where you average everyday f*** head cant just enter your life for no reason and shoot you. i got american friends and it is a dif dynamic out there. it aint about how tough you are or even how dangerous a place is. there are some really bad ppl in london as you can imagine. the difference is the really bad ppl dont often target civvies and the hood rats aint often stupid enough to. bad as it is here sometimes, its a very different scenario in usa. hardly anyone burgles a house here with a gun. the right to bear arms, = the right to live in perpetual threat of being shot by the next addict in need of a fix, or the next gang banger in need of a vic.

dont even get me started in the domestic meltdown/ friendly neighbourhood rapist scenarios.

...and acting like the firearm criminal is the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind in this situation is off base. he is the guy with the biggest target in the ghetto on his back.shooting someone in daylight here is like shooting a cop in america. bad idea. shooting an innocent is something that is extremely likely to end your life as you know it. youd have to pull some seriously developed shit to get away with that one.

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dude im never going to convince you of this, but look into it. thats all im saying. it is different living in a country where you average everyday f*** head cant just enter your life for no reason and shoot you. i got american friends and it is a dif dynamic out there. it aint about how tough you are or even how dangerous a place is. there are some really bad ppl in london as you can imagine. the difference is the really bad ppl dont often target civvies and the hood rats aint often stupid enough to. bad as it is here sometimes, its a very different scenario in usa. hardly anyone burgles a house here with a gun. the right to bear arms, = the right to live in perpetual threat of being shot by the next addict in need of a fix, or the next gang banger in need of a vic.

dont even get me started in the domestic meltdown/ friendly neighbourhood rapist scenarios.

...and acting like the firearm criminal is the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind in this situation is off base. he is the guy with the biggest target in the ghetto on his back.shooting someone in daylight here is like shooting a cop in america. bad idea. shooting an innocent is something that is extremely likely to end your life as you know it. youd have to pull some seriously developed shit to get away with that one.
i get it. its different in there. but what works for one culture wont for another.

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