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post #51 of 107 (permalink) Old 12-01-2010, 12:55 AM Thread Starter
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i get it. its different in there. but what works for one culture wont for another.
im trying to imagine a world where you dont have to worry about someone shooting you, unless you are in the game yourself.

its a shame you cant see that reality coming to pass in america. i dont think its impossible. it just depends on the populace. its a case of the good poeple saying..no. no one has any guns instead of buying them just incase.

but fair enough. it is what it is.
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im trying to imagine a world where you dont have to worry about someone shooting you, unless you are in the game yourself.

its a shame you cant see that reality coming to pass in america. i dont think its impossible. it just depends on the populace. its a case of the good poeple saying..no. no one has any guns instead of buying them just incase.

but fair enough. it is what it is.
i am trying to imagine a world where i dont have to worry about my family or myself getting mugged by someone bigger or multiple guys unless you are in the game yourself. however as far as i know there isnt such a world so whenever possible i carry an HK45c and i am prepared to defend my self and those i love.

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I don't think any normal citizen in America feels in danger of being shot at any point in the day.

England surpassed America in Robberies/Burglaries awhile ago. I personally would MUCH rather live here, where we can defend ourselve with a gun, than live there where criminals KNOW you can't own a gun, so they just victimize you.

Sorry, but i'll take our higher murder rate, which is still a low number compared to other crimes that can happen to you.
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Even though I have and carry a gun I still worry mostly about getting stabbed or ganged up on by multiple guys. I rarely worry about getting shot.



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I don't think guns should be banned. People with guns get shot a lot more than people without guns. Let nature do what it does. It's natural selection.

Luckily I live in a country where people still beat each other up.




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I dislike this argument. Guns do not kill people, people kill people. I wanted to kill someone sure a gun would be somewhat of a convenience.. but it wouldnt be much harder with a knife, club, rock etc. But it would be harder to solve as many murders as we do in america without everyone using guns. And really there are so many guns in america that even if made illegal people would still have them, they'd still be easy to get... except none of them would be registered so it'd be much harder to catch the person.
Exactly knife rock really boring main card, if someones intent on killing it usually happens.
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I don't think any normal citizen in America feels in danger of being shot at any point in the day.

England surpassed America in Robberies/Burglaries awhile ago. I personally would MUCH rather live here, where we can defend ourselve with a gun, than live there where criminals KNOW you can't own a gun, so they just victimize you.

Sorry, but i'll take our higher murder rate, which is still a low number compared to other crimes that can happen to you.
complete misrepresentation

murder rates per capita usa to uk is three times higher

they are 22 places higher on the rankings table.

the crimes you just mentioned have a marginal difference.

assualts per capita is higher in america.

rapes is higher

usa is #1 on the planet of prisoners per capita. (not a good thing).

and crime reporting is lower.

the thing is you can argue about the validity of any crime statistics because not all crimes are reported. however, if you look at murder thats a pretty good start as it obviously a crime thats harder to hide than most. thats why murders have been recorded since the middle ages in europe.

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Since you have all these numbers how about you throw out how many of those criminals are immigrants. I think that would be a good addition



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Since you have all these numbers how about you throw out how many of those criminals are immigrants. I think that would be a good addition
i do know that white murderers more likely to kill someone who aint white. black murderers are 90% black victims.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

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No stats for what I asked damn



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