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post #11 of 56 (permalink) Old 09-27-2011, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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Dude read the article Xeb posted, you can't get fired for it.
I read that but im not sure that case set the precedent. Also i went online and found a bunch of people who got fired for their facebooks.

Man how a minute of frustration can really come back to haunt yah.

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1. Your Facebook is private. Freedom of speech is still an ongoing right last time I checked.

2. Do not go down without a fight like Xeb said, do admit wrongdoing but fight this shit till the bitter end. Stress can cause an individual to do dumb shit, from top to bottom.
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I would have fired you as well had I heard you were slinging the "Jap" term around. It's no different than using demeaning terms to identify Jewish, Black or other ethnic peoples.

Your only hope is that the state you live in is NOT a "right to work" state. If it is, your employer can fire you for any reason they wish, or even for no reason at all.

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I would have fired you as well had I heard you were slinging the "Jap" term around. It's no different than using demeaning terms to identify Jewish, Black or other ethnic peoples.

Your only hope is that the state you live in is NOT a "right to work" state. If it is, your employer can fire you for any reason they wish, or even for no reason at all.
JAP just means Japanese to me. Which is how i wrote it. And even if i did decide to use demeaning terms that is STILL my private facebook. I really shouldn't have to explain to people what i write on my personal time. and TBH i write niggah on my facebook all the time and its never been a big deal.

But it sucks that i actually do have to explain my actions.

But hey bro... your just part of the system. A system that does not allow freedom of speech. I can understand if i was at work and saying that stuff but the fact is that i wasnt. I was on my own free time talking to a private group of friends.

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You have the right to freedom of speech as a means of protection from the government. It's a freedom that we have in America that most western countries still don't allow. You defame someone in France or Germany for their religion or ethnicity, it's a criminal offense. In that regard, yes in America you can still say whatever you want.

However, you're a representative of your company, in the office, at home, or in a bar. Regardless of YOUR definition of the term "Jap", it's offensive to many others. It might all seem trivial to you, but that's most likely because your a white male who has had little experience in being belittled for who or what you are.

My only advise is to find out what your rights are in your state, and to promptly go through your facebook friends list to do some spring cleaning.

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You have the right to freedom of speech as a means of protection from the government. It's a freedom that we have in America that most western countries still don't allow. You defame someone in France or Germany for their religion or ethnicity, it's a criminal offense. In that regard, yes in America you can still say whatever you want.

However, you're a representative of your company, in the office, at home, or in a bar. Regardless of YOUR definition of the term "Jap", it's offensive to many others. It might all seem trivial to you, but that's most likely because your a white male who has had little experience in being belittled for who or what you are.

My only advise is to find out what your rights are in your state, and to promptly go through your facebook friends list to do some spring cleaning.


I agree that im a Representative of my company when i am in uniform. But when my facebook has no signs of my company then im not talking as an employee but as ME. My views are mine alone.
I know about racism and tbh i try to take the sting out of it. If we talk like those terms arnt racist then eventually society will change them. If we act like its taboo then racism sticks around alot longer imo.

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Why the heck would you friend someone who would turn you in for something like that? You only friend your boss if they're also a close friend who will keep private things private. Too many ways it can blow up in your face.

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You have the right to freedom of speech as a means of protection from the government. It's a freedom that we have in America that most western countries still don't allow. You defame someone in France or Germany for their religion or ethnicity, it's a criminal offense. In that regard, yes in America you can still say whatever you want.
Yep freedom of speech only protects you from government censorship. Privacy individuals and businesses are not beholden to it.
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You have the right to freedom of speech as a means of protection from the government. It's a freedom that we have in America that most western countries still don't allow. You defame someone in France or Germany for their religion or ethnicity, it's a criminal offense. In that regard, yes in America you can still say whatever you want.

However, you're a representative of your company, in the office, at home, or in a bar. Regardless of YOUR definition of the term "Jap", it's offensive to many others. It might all seem trivial to you, but that's most likely because your a white male who has had little experience in being belittled for who or what you are.

My only advise is to find out what your rights are in your state, and to promptly go through your facebook friends list to do some spring cleaning.
As far as I know in most states he will have no recourse, as most are at-will and can fire you for almost anything. He might get lucky though I suppose. And given the cause, I bet you could still qualify for unemployment.

edit: whoops, you already mentioned that.

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Why the heck would you friend someone who would turn you in for something like that? You only friend your boss if they're also a close friend who will keep private things private. Too many ways it can blow up in your face.



Yep freedom of speech only protects you from government censorship. Privacy individuals and businesses are not beholden to it.


As far as I know in most states he will have no recourse, as most are at-will and can fire you for almost anything. He might get lucky though I suppose. And given the cause, I bet you could still qualify for unemployment.

edit: whoops, you already mentioned that.
Dude trust me.. its not like i have the sword from thunder-cats and i can see in to the future. I didnt be friend anyone thinking that they are going to rat on me. Im as shocked as it gets. I only have 2 people as friends at this new station and none of them seemed like people that would do such a thing. I know i never would.


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:/ live and learn i guess?

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:/ live and learn i guess?
I guess so. This couldn't come at a worse time but not much i can do to change things. We will see what the verdict is next week.

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