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Old 10-05-2011, 02:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Should all police officers be required to wear a camera?

We've all heard stories of cops breaking the law and behaving unethically. At the same time police officers are one of the most at risk to be sued for the duties required by their job.

Should police officers be required to wear cameras?



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These Police Will Soon Be Required To Wear Head Mounted Cameras

Sadly, stories about police discrimination and the Tasering of 10-year old girls are frighteningly commonplace these days. Officers in San Jose, CA have a particularly bad reputation, which is one reason why they are being outfitted with head-mounted cameras.

The kit includes a camera, a control piece and a computer that hangs from the belt. Every time an officer interacts with a civilian, they are required to activate the AXON camera. Afterward, the officer can switch the camera to a "buffer" mode that records limited video, or turn it off completely. At the end of a shift, the video will be downloaded to a central server.

A leading critic of the department welcomed the cameras as a tool to provide useful evidence, but dismissed their significance as a solution to rocky police-community relations.

"The AXON project is unfortunately a positive thing right now because the level of distrust is so high," said Raj Jayadev, director of the community organization Silicon Valley De-Bug. "But it doesn't address the more fundamental problem: What stereotypes police may carry when they see people of color on the street and make assumptions about character.

Since an officer can simply turn off the device at anytime, I don't think AXON will put an end to police abuse. However, keeping a record of these interactions can do nothing but help the evidence gathering process. Trials financed by Taser are currently underway, but reports estimate that a full-fledged deployment in the San Jose area would cost upwards of $4 million in taxpayer money
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It definitely couldn't hurt imo.
'Controversial' situations, where a cop supposedly spots a crime, but in the trial it's only his word against the defendant, could be avoided. Though if the cop can switch it on/off whenever he wants to, how can unethical and law breaking situations be avoided?
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It definitely couldn't hurt imo.
'Controversial' situations, where a cop supposedly spots a crime, but in the trial it's only his word against the defendant, could be avoided. Though if the cop can switch it on/off whenever he wants to, how can unethical and law breaking situations be avoided?
Well I imagine in a criminal trial it might be a tool to work reasonable doubt. This officer had a camera that was supposed to be on but wasn't. Three things come to my mind that the officer is incompetent, he's lying/bending the truth or simply made a mistake/equipment failure etc. And I imagine if the same officer had multiple problems in that specific area he'd probably get in trouble and/or be investigated.

I do imagine this kind of thing would have it's limitations, but it might be a step in the right direction. Protection for good cops, justice for bad cops
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I'd rather die a free man than live in a world where police officers are walking security cameras.
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Meh I'm a firm believer that if you don't have anything to hide why not? If a cop came up to me right now and asked to search me I wouldn't mind. I have nothing to hide. If the cop has nothing to hide then this would only help them in the future.
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I'd rather die a free man than live in a world where police officers are walking security cameras.
Really? It might be different in America than it is in Germany. We have cameras everywhere. If I went out to grab a coffee at the local coffee shop I like I'd have been seen on 6-8 security cameras buy the time I received my delicious coffee. Also our police have a bad reputation in America, and I think a lot of people might find this as a way of self protection from police.

That coffee shop is like a 6 minute drive from here on a good day.

Granted it might be a bad thing, what would be some reasons it would be a bad thing?
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Really? It might be different in America than it is in Germany. We have cameras everywhere. If I went out to grab a coffee at the local coffee shop I like I'd have been seen on 6-8 security cameras buy the time I received my delicious coffee. Also our police have a bad reputation in America, and I think a lot of people might find this as a way of self protection from police.

That coffee shop is like a 6 minute drive from here on a good day.

Granted it might be a bad thing, what would be some reasons it would be a bad thing?
Wow, seriously? The only place I see security cameras is the bank.

I would have serious issues with having my life videotaped. First and foremost, I don't trust the government not to misuse that system. I don't trust the company installing these cameras to not misuse them. I don't trust them to make it safe so others won't misuse them. And having cameras on the street is just a step towards having cameras in your home.

Thinking about it, all of that would be okay if people were honest and trustworthy. But then there wouldn't be need for cameras either.
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I'm definitely for this. It's about time these high school graduates who carry guns get more monitoring.
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Wow, seriously? The only place I see security cameras is the bank.

I would have serious issues with having my life videotaped. First and foremost, I don't trust the government not to misuse that system. I don't trust the company installing these cameras to not misuse them. I don't trust them to make it safe so others won't misuse them. And having cameras on the street is just a step towards having cameras in your home.

Thinking about it, all of that would be okay if people were honest and trustworthy. But then there wouldn't be need for cameras either.
Oh yea, they are everywhere here. Gas stations, food stores, traffic lights, banks.. Even my hole in the wall coffee shop has a security camera



Definitely some trust issues but maybe it would make the police more accountable for their actions. And depending on the state, you can already be video and audio taped without concent in public anyways. While this might be extreme in Germany where you aren't recorded often, it really wouldn't be huge for us because we're already videotaped all the time.

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This is pretty much how I feel about it.
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such a touchy subject for me..... course ive grown up on the side of law enforcment with my father being a chicago policeman, and several "uncles" who i grew up with that were my dads partners and such. add in a cousin and another cousins ex husband, plus many of the guys i grew up hunting with, and while working at the bowling ally all our security were off duty chicago policemen. i know how cops think, act and respond. basically listen, dont mouth off and dont do anything in a threatening manor and 99% of the time you will not have a problem. i leave that 1% for the people who should not have a badge and gun.... they are out there.

that said, police now are getting handcuffed themselves from doing their jobs. atleast here in chicago since crime is so high, that small misdomeaner stuff is getting dismissed automatically, and anyone making a claim against a policeman is just paid off instanly for like $5k cuz its cheaper to do that then to accually research it and find out if its a BS claim or not.... and then that sticks on the officers record! i had a friend who worked in one of the worst neighborhoods in chicago.... he gotshipped off to another area and put on a probation cuz he hit some magical number of 10 CR's (complaints registered) against him. forget that he had 300+ arrests and convictions of hardcore gang bangers ranging from assault and battery to class X felony drug charges and homocides..... but 10 of them complained he was too rough... and now hes taken out of that area where he is doing what he can to clean it up, cuz some politition decided that all cops were bad after a high profile bad cop surfaced (Anthony Abbate was a POS who beat up a female bartender for cutting him off, turns out the cops who worked with him even hated him).

i could go on and on... but no i dont think they should, cuz there are too many stupid people out there who think police should never lay a hand on anyone no matter what.... well im sorry... if you fight or resist.. you NEED to get your ass beat.... i will never get my ass beat by a cop, cuz i know to follow directions. if your truly innocent, then just listen, follow instructions and things will more then likley work out for you... will you maybe be inconvenienced for a little bit? possibly.... is that worth getting your ass kicked for tho?


i was accually pretty impressed with something my dad told me, he said you never mess with the working man who made a mistake.... now growing up of all the things my dad told me never to do... drugs were the one thing i was deathly afraid of.. not for doing them.. but him finding out. was the reason in the beginning why i never smoked weed (retard "friends" took the desire for me to try it even). hearing him talk about someone else who would bust anyone with anyting at all, and to hear my dad say "you mess with dealers and shat heads... thats (name not givin) problem... he will stop a guy who works 60 hours a week with a family who has a dime bag on him, and throw him up against the wall, and thats BS... guys like that you give them a talking too, put some fear in them about thier mistake, throw the s^&t in a sewer and send them home.... you dont take them in..." and most cops i know share the same mentality. if they had cameras showing every little thing they did... they couldnt do this anymore... cuz what if 1 of 20 guys they let off did something horrible.... and they have them on camera letting them off.... the backlash would be horrendeous!


think of anytime you got caught doing something stupid and a cop caught you but let you go.... this could never happen again cuz that off chance they let someone off and he ends up doing something bad, and theres video of them giving them a pass......


incredibly long post i know... TLDNR version: no the cameras suck, if you dont wanna get your ass kicked by the cops, dont be a moron!
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