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post #51 of 77 (permalink) Old 01-27-2012, 08:40 AM
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I don't understand what's the big issue with pirating.
If i'm not downloading it, i'm not gonna buy it anyway,
so the argument that these company's are losing billions of dollars it's BS iyam.
I actually agree with this. I'll even go as far as saying that some even benifit from piracy.
I still go to school and I have pretty much no income for now what so ever, so I can safely say I will definitely not buy 99% of the stuff I download. But what I can tell you is that whenever I find a good musician, a video game or whatever and I really enjoy it... I buy it afterwards almost every time. And I know many people who do exactly the same.
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I actually agree with this. I'll even go as far as saying that some even benifit from piracy.
I still go to school and I have pretty much no income for now what so ever, so I can safely say I will definitely not buy 99% of the stuff I download. But what I can tell you is that whenever I find a good musician, a video game or whatever and I really enjoy it... I buy it afterwards almost every time. And I know many people who do exactly the same.
Im sure you are using that amazing software called photoshop. And you honor the company Adobe and bought that after you found out for free how good it is

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Im sure you are using that amazing software called photoshop. And you honor the company Adobe and bought that after you found out for free how good it is
I'm not, but I have a legal copy of Adobe Elements on my PC, so nice try.
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I kinda thought that you were kinda joking and wanna make fun of it.

I understand that. In fact I understand your points about porn very well Muted porn is sin!

But I have feelins for the poor guys and girls that make living by ******* in front of camera. They have sad lives. So we should be generous and pay for their hard work.

And ftr not the case of 130pound kid here. Dont worry
Porn is no laughing matter.... I once went a month without jerking off. I woke up with a huge white goo stain on my boxers. (First time i ever white gooed while sleeping). It was actually a huge pain in the ass to clean up and not to mention it was a very uncomfortable way to wake up. I then realized how important it is to clean the pipes. Without porn who knows how many boxers,blankets,sheets id have to clean in the morning. Yikes... a world without porn... i wonder if it would have a direct correlation to the crime rate lmao.

Haha i can definitely see myself telling my kids "Back in my day Porn was everywhere.!! We didnt have none of this 29.99$ dollar DVD where the genital parts are blurred out. Only Chinese porn had that.!! I have seen over a thousand pairs of tits. Those were the good days"

I always wonder if pornstars feel good about being pornstars. I mean.. you basically have to abandon your family. It would be very awkward to have a family dinner with your dad probably coming across you getting white goo'd all over your face on the internet. I just dont see how its possible to have that white picket fence average joe life if you are a pornstar.

I Do know one of my good friends Jacobs partook in a porno over in San Francisco. He was along side 1 other male star and the guy was a young guy i see pretty often in videos. The girl was pretty damn hot too. I only saw the trailer for it but you see him in the background holding a pool stick. I guess it was him and the other dude and the chick from what i understood. I didnt ask too many questions... But for whatever reason they let him go after that one video.

Anyway.. i am off to bed. Good night sir.

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Ok so you are saying that if no piracy exists you would not buy any software,music,movies,games etc.?

I dont believe that.
Software, i can get along just fine with freeware.
Music, i don't really care for music, radio is more than enough for me.
Games. I don't have time (or patience) for that.
So yeah, the only way i would spend more money is in the video club, since i don't rent a movie in ages cause i get them in the web.

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I'm not, but I have a legal copy of Adobe Elements on my PC, so nice try.
Props to you

I dont know anyone who has photoshop legally except people that need it for work and make a living by using it.

I will try to explain it what is wrong with piracy. I used photoshop as the best example I knew. Its price is very high and Im convinced that if all people will be forced to buy it (no piracy) price will go down very hard.

What is wrong with piracy is that you are just stealing. Someone make an effort, put energy in something and you get it for free. That is just wrong.

But its just human nature. We go the way with less resistence. Why I would buy it when I can have it for free. When you dont have that option you will have to adapt to the situation.

In fact that you are buying some stuff after you have it free just to give a money to author. That is kinda honest and rare. Anyway you will buy for a lot more things when you dont have other option.

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Porn is no laughing matter.... I once went a month without jerking off. I woke up with a huge white goo stain on my boxers. (First time i ever white gooed while sleeping). It was actually a huge pain in the ass to clean up and not to mention it was a very uncomfortable way to wake up. I then realized how important it is to clean the pipes. Without porn who knows how many boxers,blankets,sheets id have to clean in the morning. Yikes... a world without porn... i wonder if it would have a direct correlation to the crime rate lmao.

Haha i can definitely see myself telling my kids "Back in my day Porn was everywhere.!! We didnt have none of this 29.99$ dollar DVD where the genital parts are blurred out. Only Chinese porn had that.!! I have seen over a thousand pairs of tits. Those were the good days"

I always wonder if pornstars feel good about being pornstars. I mean.. you basically have to abandon your family. It would be very awkward to have a family dinner with your dad probably coming across you getting white goo'd all over your face on the internet. I just dont see how its possible to have that white picket fence average joe life if you are a pornstar.

I Do know one of my good friends Jacobs partook in a porno over in San Francisco. He was along side 1 other male star and the guy was a young guy i see pretty often in videos. The girl was pretty damn hot too. I only saw the trailer for it but you see him in the background holding a pool stick. I guess it was him and the other dude and the chick from what i understood. I didnt ask too many questions... But for whatever reason they let him go after that one video.

Anyway.. i am off to bed. Good night sir.
Interesting stories man. Nice look to Sideways jerking privacy

Sad part of world you live in. Here is 3pm Im at the work. But ok, good night

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Props to you

I dont know anyone who has photoshop legally except people that need it for work and make a living by using it.

I will try to explain it what is wrong with piracy. I used photoshop as the best example I knew. Its price is very high and Im convinced that if all people will be forced to buy it (no piracy) price will go down very hard.

What is wrong with piracy is that you are just stealing. Someone make an effort, put energy in something and you get it for free. That is just wrong.

But its just human nature. We go the way with less resistence. Why I would buy it when I can have it for free. When you dont have that option you will have to adapt to the situation.

In fact that you are buying some stuff after you have it free just to give a money to author. That is kinda honest and rare. Anyway you will buy for a lot more things when you dont have other option.
I think piracy helps touring artists a lot, it's the easiest way to get your product to the masses and let it be heard, comedians.. who the hell buys comedy dvds? I'm very into music and I wouldn't know jack shit if i didn't have the ability to download things so freely. I didn't hear about Pharoahe Monch listening to the radio or watching MTV, you know?? And when good artists like him tour the globe I can guarantee you i'll always fork out the cash to see them live.







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lol sensationalism.


Oh no! People are trying to stop theft! How terrible!


And yes, let's pretend someone released all your wife and kids personal information...their numbers, SSNs, address...and released it to millions of people, some of which are guaranteed to be lunatics, I'm sure you would be ok with that.
I wouldn't be okay with it, but if you think I would pay some hitman to murder the kid and throw him in a dumpster with cheetos in his mouth, you have another thing coming. As if goons would even be able to trace the guy if police can't, what're they oracles?

At most I would take every legal action possible. At worst, I wouldn't have been an egotistical douchebag, that dared half the world to do their worst against me, to begin with. And Dana cares for his wife, first thing he needs to do is stop cheating on her.

SOPA is not about stopping theft or piracy. Read the bill before you cheer along to your own enslavement. It doesn't require proof, warrants, nothing. Someone doesn't like a website, they make a complaint based on any ridiculous copyright claim (which could be as stupid as the someone saying a catchphrase on your site), it's shut down or censored. That's it. It's as unconstitutional a law as they come.

Not to mention the slippery slope. Once you force every ISP to introduce content blocking, then it's a pandora's box. There is absolutely nothing to stop the govt from censoring whatever it chooses under some flimsy pretext or the other.
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I think piracy helps touring artists a lot, it's the easiest way to get your product to the masses and let it be heard, comedians.. who the hell buys comedy dvds? I'm very into music and I wouldn't know jack shit if i didn't have the ability to download things so freely. I didn't hear about Pharoahe Monch listening to the radio or watching MTV, you know?? And when good artists like him tour the globe I can guarantee you i'll always fork out the cash to see them live.
Who said that everything will be for money? Artist will be free to spread their stuff free. It will work better in enviroment withou piracy.

So I dont agree.

I do watch and use almost everything without paying and I have no problem with it. But I understand what Im doing and if it will have some consequences I will have to accept them. Not bitching about it.

Maybe if people will not have free access to everything they will spend their money and some free time better. Who knows.

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