Haha. Crazy. Could be a different person though. Those pics aren't the clearest in the world. Definitely looks like her.
I browse on ATS sometimes. I'm far from a junkie.
As far as the original video goes, I had a valid explanation going for every statement until the 13 minute mark when I couldn't take anymore.
I actually don't go there much these days, probably because a lot of the shit people believe there hasn't happened or has been debunked. For a while though I was hooked as it was just different. My main focus on there was the Federal Reserve, and the Illuminati/Freemasons and all the million conspiracies surrounding them.
I'm pretty sure this video has been debunked entirely.
Really? Please tell me how you debunk parents LAUGHING and SMIRKING a day after their child died, asking if the camera's ready, then suddenly hyperventilating and prepping into a badly acted "sad" speech, still without managing a single tear:
Not a single one of these parents sheds a single tear.. ever. Just launch straight into gun control
Not even the president can manage one
And how about this amazing "Chief medical examiner"
Really, pray tell, just how did you debunk all of this? No video footage of the kids only pics, badly photoshopped family photos, ridiculous meth-head looking laughing emotionless actors posing as parents and medical personnel, pedophile looking witnesses that keep kids in their homes for 30 mins before calling 911, contradicting stories about the rifle being used, parents asking for "charity" money before the bodies of their children are even cold (heck some even before the actual event! But at least they deleted and re-created those pages) and launching into detailed gun control agendas that their "kids talked about"...
1984 has truly arrived.
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I watched the whole video and it definitely exposed the usual assortment of government and media lies, but the motive is sketchy and thus not really credible.
It is interesting though, so I agree with Rousey.
Why is the motive sketchy? Disarm the people, then do whatever the hell you want with them ... overtax, make them serfs/slaves, poor, scared, stupid whatever. That's how every dictatorship or monarchy in history has ever worked, which is most of history. This has been happening slowly since 9/11, the bailouts and so on, the osama scare and "kill" without ever seeing the body or any footage because uh... that'd be disrespectful to the terrorist.. what else is new.
The economy has been crashed by wall street cokeheads playing roulette, then they all get bailouts and raises for it, coincidentally the entire federal administration is full of nothing but Goldman Sachs employees, the constitution and civil liberties are being slowly stripped away (Warrantless taps, arrests and indefinite detention of US citizens in Guantanamo etc.), the media is turned into paid propaganda and all owned by the same wall street guys hiding behind private companies and yet the motive is not clear? Read history.
I now feel bad for deriding Rousey. She knows the shit storm this will cause, the usual allegations of monstrous insensitivity and being a conspiracy theory nutjob. Yet she put it out publicly. That takes courage, just gained herself an unlikely fan.
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I don't mind conspiracy theories. I actually like watching documentaries on aliens and ghosts and what not. I DESPISE conspiracy theories when it comes to events like 9/11 and children dying.
Yeah there's some weird stuff that won't always add up in peoples eyes. The problem with these conspiracy kooks is that it is all about THEM. They believe that they are part of some secret club or something who magically know the "truth" and everyone else are just sheep who are blind to reality. The fact is they are damn fools full of self righteousness and douchebaggery to the point of no return.
That being said, check this out for something creepy about Sandy Hook.
Trippy stuff. 9/11 and Sandy hook conspiracy theorist still make me want to punch a baby.
How is it about THEM (the conspiracy theorists)? If anything, they receive nothing but ridicule and hate for their views, case in point your own post.
Why in the world would we want to make up all of this? Do you think we like the thought of being insensitive to parents who lost their kids? Do you think we like being laughed at? The last thing we want to do is hurt someone already hurt. Just LOOK AT the videos though! This was all on national TV! We didn't make it up.
How can anybody watch the video and not at least call it "interesting"?
I certainly found it interesting. Good on Ronda for posting it.
The dude who actually put togther the video is a knob though. The info hes presenting is interesting, but hes clearly one of these c*unts on some kind of ego trip.
How can anybody watch the video and not at least call it "interesting"?
I certainly found it interesting. Good on Ronda for posting it.
The dude who actually put togther the video is a knob though. The info hes presenting is interesting, but hes clearly one of these c*unts on some kind of ego trip.
Why do you say that? At what point did the guy praise himself or even talk about his own brilliance? The most he does is point out how it gets more and more ridiculous the more you look into it.
I watched that whole video and found it pretty interesting. I'd never even considered Sandy Hook as anything other than what was on the news but now, i gotta admit. He did raise some very interesting points.
The majority of it was conjecture and a bit of a stretch but as a father, I cant imagine how anyone can be laughing and smiling the day after their child had been supposedly killed.
The whole thing about the lack of children/emergency workers etc was a bit creepy too.
Why do you say that? At what point did the guy praise himself or even talk about his own brilliance? The most he does is point out how it gets more and more ridiculous the more you look into it.
Come on brother. I'm sure you know what I mean. Do you really believe this dude put out the video because he felt a deep desire to help people see the truth? I dont buy it. The whole video has a vibe about it... "I'm going to educate you people". I cant sit here and point to every little detail, but my feelings about it are what they are. Hes over sensationalizing an already sensational story. The "facts" could have been delivered with less theatrics and patronization.
Ive seen and read so much regards hidden agenda and secret society. It's become a *massive* industry worth a *lot* of money. As such it's attracting more and more assholes.
Still, the actual material hes presenting is very interesting. He/she should have taken more of a back seat and let the facts speak for themselves.
Its hard to put anything past the united states government. They faked a vietnamese attack on their warship in order to invade vietnam, bush senior told the king of saudi that Iraqi troops were on the border to invade saudi to get the green light for the first war in iraq (satellite photos showed no iraqi troops near the border). These things led to serious wars with millions dying, so no lie is really beyond the US government.
In this case its such a delicate topic shouting conspiracy is easy to be shot down. I doubt such an incident would be faked, but I wouldn't put it past those boys in government. Obama has sent over 10 times as many drone attacks as Bush, and he is supposed to be the good president. My faith is gone in him a long time ago.
Come on brother. I'm sure you know what I mean. Do you really believe this dude put out the video because he felt a deep desire to help people see the truth? I dont buy it. The whole video has a vibe about it... "I'm going to educate you people". I cant sit here and point to every little detail, but my feelings about it are what they are. Hes over sensationalizing an already sensational story. The "facts" could have been delivered with less theatrics and patronization.
Ive seen and read so much regards hidden agenda and secret society. It's become a *massive* industry worth a *lot* of money. As such it's attracting more and more assholes.
Still, the actual material hes presenting is very interesting. He/she should have taken more of a back seat and let the facts speak for themselves.
Yeah you're right as usual soojoo. There's moneymakers, charlatans and demagogues in the conspiracy theory world too, and those are actually harder to discern than these sorts of bad actors. Alex Jones is one of those commercial demagogues that always rubbed me that way, and the alien types I thought were usually where it strayed into fantasyland. Some conspiracy theory types will also take it as an ego thing or being smarter, and this guy may fall in that category.
Sometimes it's a byproduct of being laughed and shouted down though ... anyone who says something other than the official story is immediately ostracized or treated like a nutjob. Very 1984ish. Counter-ridicule is often a reaction to that sort of thing.
Sometimes it's a byproduct of being laughed and shouted down though ... anyone who says something other than the official story is immediately ostracized or treated like a nutjob. Very 1984ish. Counter-ridicule is often a reaction to that sort of thing.