[Redrum]

You got the first part right, but you fail to grasp the second. How can you say that something that is an illusion is real? RushFan refers to them as the party "of unity and hope", but he clearly has no idea what they actually are or what they actually stand for, what he has is his beliefs. This is not far removed from other forms of beliefs. Point is, XitUp, we all have a god. For some of us, that god lies beyond physical reach. For others who may be less spiritual, god is government.

[XitUp]

Originally Posted by Redrum

You got the first part right, but you fail to grasp the second. How can you say that something that is an illusion is real? RushFan refers to them as the party "of unity and hope", but he clearly has no idea what they actually are or what they actually stand for, what he has is his beliefs. This is not far removed from other forms of beliefs.

This is where you are missing my point. I don't care about what he refers to them as or how much faith he has in them, that is not what I was referring to.
They are a real thing that exists. Deities are not.

Point is, XitUp, we all have a god. For some of us, that god lies beyond physical reach. For others who may be less spiritual, god is government.

Please don't assume things about other people based on what you believe.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by XitUp

This is where you are missing my point. I don't care about what he refers to them as or how much faith he has in them, that is not what I was referring to.
They are a real thing that exists. Deities are not.

This is where you are missing my point. It is exactly what I am referring to. This is exactly why I posed this question to RushFan, at which time you butted in and decided to answer for him. The democrat party may exist, but the degree to which it is actually real as opposed to a manufactured illusion is relative.

Are you 100% certain beyond any shadow of doubt that no deity from any religion exists or has existed anywhere in any plane at this time or at anytime in all of history? Can you explain to me, if in fact you have this degree certainty, how this wisdom was imparted to you in such a way that you may present it as fact in this forum?

Please don't assume things about other people based on what you believe.

Why on earth not? It's called making a judgment from experience. This is one of the many purposes of the human mind.

[XitUp]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Are you 100% certain beyond any shadow of doubt that no deity from any religion exists or has existed anywhere in any plane at this time or at anytime in all of history? Can you explain to me, if in fact you have this degree certainty, how this wisdom was imparted to you in such a way that you may present it as fact in this forum?

No, but about 99.99%. Can you be 100% certain that there is a God?

[MJB23]

I think you both are missing the point that this thread is about death and organ harvesting and NOT about democracy and the democratic party. If you want to talk politics do it in the politics thread and if you want to talk religion do it in the religion thread but keep this one on topic.

[XitUp]

Good call

[MJB23]

It's what I'm here for.