[Squirrelfighter]

Originally Posted by oldfan

It's wonderful that your Grandparents could afford such good coverage. It would have been a shame if his death had been hastened by lack of treatment and your Grandmother left to spend the rest of her life harassed by debt collectors, like happens to so many people.

I wonder Squirrel, do you buy your own insurance?

I get it through work. A rediculously high amount of money is cut from my check bi-weekly. But its a helluva lot less than I'll have to pay if I get my arm broken, or get in a car accident.

[HitOrGetHit]

Originally Posted by K R Y

WHAT!? HOW in the name in holy excrement can one night cost that much!?

My mother was in the hospital for around 3 days and the cost was creeping on 100k.

[K R Y]

...Unbelievable.

Makes me appreciate the NHS that much more.

[oldfan]

Originally Posted by Squirrelfighter

I get it through work. A rediculously high amount of money is cut from my check bi-weekly. But its a helluva lot less than I'll have to pay if I get my arm broken, or get in a car accident.

My last few years at work I watched that ridiculous amount go higher and higher as well as the deductibles while the actual benefits went lower and lower. I ended up with something like you probably have. where I would still have to pay about 35% of that broken arm or million dollar death.

Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit

My mother was in the hospital for around 3 days and the cost was creeping on 100k.

It's an insane, unbreakable cycle. you have to have insurance to even approach paying those costs which are jacked way up because insurance is paying for it.

any ******* attempt to fix this horrible mess is branded socialism = communism = Unamerican = enemy=

[Squirrelfighter]

Originally Posted by oldfan

My last few years at work I watched that ridiculous amount go higher and higher as well as the deductibles while the actual benefits went lower and lower. I ended up with something like you probably have. where I would still have to pay about 35% of that broken arm or million dollar death.

Yeah, from working in the medical field, and having close contact with hospitals, ERs, billing centers. A good approximation is this:

Sit in a bed in an ER? +40,000
Get a test? +10,000
Take a pill? +5,000
Talk to a GP (ER doctor)? +20,000
Talk a specialist? +50,000
Get a procedure? +20,000-100,000 depending on the procedure

For a broken arm:
1 er visit at least (40k)
2-4 tests (20-40k)
2-4 pain pills (10-20k)
2-3 doctor conversations (40-90k)
1-3 procedures depending on the severity (20-200k)

Minimum 150k before insurance.

[Rauno]

Just got back from bowling, good times. And the previous topic, makes me appreciate our health care.

[Leed]

Originally Posted by Rauno

Just got back from bowling, good times. And the previous topic, makes me appreciate our health care.

No kidding.. You have to pay to talk to a doctor? That's nuts.

[Intermission]

With all this being said... I LOVE Canada, my mom just had a big operation a few days ago where he actually had a bad elbow replaced with an artificial elbow. It was an extensive operation that included staying at the hospital overnight. We didn't pay a penny lol

[Squirrelfighter]

Originally Posted by Leed

No kidding.. You have to pay to talk to a doctor? That's nuts.

Yeah, if its the ER doc, you're paying to be diagnosed and have your treatment determined (legally, only a doctor can diagnos anything), if its a speicalist its a "consultation."

[Leed]

Originally Posted by Intermission

With all this being said... I LOVE Canada, my mom just had a big operation a few days ago where he actually had a bad elbow replaced with an artificial elbow. It was an extensive operation that included staying at the hospital overnight. We didn't pay a penny lol

My sister broke her arm, had two surgeries, stayed at the hospital for a day or two after both surgeries, also didn't pay a penny.