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01-15-2013, 03:37 PM
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Speed Kills
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Dana has done a lot, but the Fertittas' money is the only reason this sport is around. Dana would be sitting at home if it wasn't for them. Their money upped the production value of the UFC and pretty much did just as much work, if not more than Dana White has done. Dana just gets the credit because its his big mouth on the TV screen.
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01-15-2013, 03:49 PM
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BOOMER SOONER
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Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit
Dana has done a lot, but the Fertittas' money is the only reason this sport is around. Dana would be sitting at home if it wasn't for them. Their money upped the production value of the UFC and pretty much did just as much work, if not more than Dana White has done. Dana just gets the credit because its his big mouth on the TV screen.
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I can't stand how he and others think he is the ONLY man qualified to do what he does. Much smarter and better men out there that if given the same opportunity could get things done.
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01-15-2013, 04:32 PM
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Kneel Before Christ!
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Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit
Dana has done a lot, but the Fertittas' money is the only reason this sport is around. Dana would be sitting at home if it wasn't for them. Their money upped the production value of the UFC and pretty much did just as much work, if not more than Dana White has done. Dana just gets the credit because its his big mouth on the TV screen.
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Not really.
The Fertitas are nothing but shams. They inherited a ton of blood money from a mafia family and run a shady casino conglomerate.
They only get involved when they feel like overstepping Dana because it's their capital.
Dana is the President of the UFC's day to day operations...period. Nearly everything that the UFC does is a result of his doing....at the very least he has input.
As far as Rampage goes, he's a big baby and has been a mediocre fighter for 3 years now, this is nothing new.
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01-15-2013, 04:43 PM
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Speed Kills
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Originally Posted by Roflcopter
Not really.
The Fertitas are nothing but shams. They inherited a ton of blood money from a mafia family and run a shady casino conglomerate.
They only get involved when they feel like overstepping Dana because it's their capital.
Dana is the President of the UFC's day to day operations...period. Nearly everything that the UFC does is a result of his doing....at the very least he has input.
As far as Rampage goes, he's a big baby and has been a mediocre fighter for 3 years now, this is nothing new.
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I was talking more about their money having a lot to do with where the UFC is. They had the money invested in getting this off of the ground.
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01-15-2013, 05:59 PM
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Doobie Doobie Doo...how's your Bud Ice?
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Thing is about business, it's almost impossible to be crooked and keep a reputation. It catches up to you. It always does.
From what I can see Dana has been instrumental from the ground up. I think it's brash personality that turns people off. He's part promoter, business man, and really a fan at the end of the day. Coker is also up there. I've researched and dealt with these MMA promoters and yes quite a few are crooked simply because they're trying to make a buck. Everybody bends the rules from time to time, but from what I can see Dana is pretty straight up. Yah he has to back track sometimes, but he admits it.
From what the majority of the fighters say I think he's a good dude.
Remember Dennis Hallman getting his $60k pay even though he released em after missing weight. "Stupid business decision, but the right thing to do."
It was Dana who helped Rampage get through that entire ordeal I'm sure of. Funny how he forgets.
Hooking up Chuck Liddell with a VP job.
Something completely out of MMA. I remember seeing Dana White pay Snoop Dogg $10-$20k cash for the Lakers and Celtics game. In my books a man who settles his debts is for the most part a respectable and honourable person. Maybe he's a Lannister at least for the debt part...haha.
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01-15-2013, 08:22 PM
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Speed Kills
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Just played the craziest SC2 match I have ever played.
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01-15-2013, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by No_Mercy
Remember Dennis Hallman getting his $60k pay even though he released em after missing weight. "Stupid business decision, but the right thing to do."
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Remember Hallman was on the UFC 151 card and they were legally obligated to pay him and all the guys who had their fights cancelled.
White might claim it was a "bad" business decision but the reality is he defaulted on that contract.
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01-16-2013, 01:19 AM
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Doobie Doobie Doo...how's your Bud Ice?
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Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit
Just played the craziest SC2 match I have ever played.
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I use to play SC 1. Those hour long + games were always memorable. I have since retired.
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Originally Posted by John8204
Remember Hallman was on the UFC 151 card and they were legally obligated to pay him and all the guys who had their fights cancelled.
White might claim it was a "bad" business decision but the reality is he defaulted on that contract.
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Probably true, but you get the picture. The man has been integral to the rise of the organization and the sport as a whole. Art Davies, Rorion, Affliction, Elite, Bodog, IFL, WFA, TKO, couldn't get it right. Zuffa blended the right business acumen to get this off the ground. It all fit together. Even Dana's most hated rivals give em props from time to time; Frank Shamrock, Tito, Mayweather/boxers, etc.
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01-16-2013, 02:29 AM
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Kneel Before Christ!
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Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit
I was talking more about their money having a lot to do with where the UFC is. They had the money invested in getting this off of the ground.
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Yes but giving a huge amount of credit to an investor for the hard work of Dana is backwards. You can just as easily say the Fertitas would be sitting in Vegas in an unknown casino office if it wasn't for Dana presenting them with this idea.
Mind you, the Fertittas were getting ready to pull the plug on this thing MULTIPLE times before it kept skyrocketing upward.
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01-16-2013, 03:33 AM
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It's Hammer Time!
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So much snow. Feels like Christmas. 
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