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Withers 02-15-2013 06:14 PM

How many martial arts...
 
Hey guys, not sure if I'm not understanding how MMA works, or if it's just me but should I be learning/training different martial arts at the same time? The gym I go to offers: BJJ, muay thai, no-gi, and has MMA days as well. here's the schedule:



I really want to go as much as possible (like every day) but obviously that's not possible if I'm training just one art. I had my first class on Wednesday which was muay thai beginner and I absolutely loved muay thai. What should I do here? Take every single class there or just go to the muay thai classes? I don't want to overwhelm myself and move to fast, but I also want to train as much as possible, as I am very dedicated and determined on getting better. What would you guys do? Thanks so much, sorry about the long post!

No_Mercy 02-15-2013 06:51 PM

It's you again. Basically MMA is more for marketing these days. I've seen Krav Maga, Karate, Tae Kwon Do gyms teach "MMA." It's comical.

As you can see in real time fighting this is the breakdown for the best type of striking and grappling.

Striking: about a hundred different art forms, but everyone would agree after the mid 90's with Maurice Smith that kick boxing/muay thai is the go to artform. Then enter Pele, Wanderlei, Shogun, Anderson, Dutch fighters, etc.

Grappling: Sumo, sambo, judo, greco, BJJ.

Over the past two decades it's been narrowed down to three key disciplines; muay thai, BJJ, and wrestling.

Striking: Muay Thai (there's American style kick boxing and Savate so don't get confused.)

Grappling: BJJ (Royce made this popular.) Within this class they'll teach you grappling.
Gi: Classic training.
After "MMA" became popular most gyms offered no gi (non classical) because that's what competition deemed. Very different moves with the gi on. Life B Ez can comment here as he's a certified instructor. *note* he does like to hit on his students. *correction* female students :)

Conditioning is part of the warm up and rolling.

Some have studied other artforms before entering into the gyms. It may or may not help. IE: Karate + Tae Kwon Do kicks are completely different from Muay Thai dead leg kicks.

So focus on those two. You'll be set to go.

Oh don't worry about sparring til a year or two from now. Don't even bother. Learn the techniques first, footwork that goes along with the striking, defense (parry,counters), and then combinations.

Peeps in the gym asked me to spar with the pros, but I graciously declined cuz I'm not a hot shot and I've seen our own instructor get obliterated by one of the fighters...so I was like hmm...that's not good. So just spar with peeps your own level otherwise you will GET KTFO.

Withers 02-15-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by No_Mercy (Post 1802898)
It's you again. Basically MMA is more for marketing these days. I've seen Krav Maga, Karate, Tae Kwon Do gyms teach "MMA." It's comical.

As you can see in real time fighting this is the breakdown for the best type of striking and grappling.

Striking: about a hundred different art forms, but everyone would agree after the mid 90's with Maurice Smith that kick boxing/muay thai is the go to artform. Then enter Pele, Wanderlei, Shogun, Anderson, Dutch fighters, etc.

Grappling: Sumo, sambo, judo, greco, BJJ.

Over the past two decades it's been narrowed down to three key disciplines; muay thai, BJJ, and wrestling.

Striking: Muay Thai (there's American style kick boxing and Savate so don't get confused.)

Grappling: BJJ (Royce made this popular.) Within this class they'll teach you grappling.
Gi: Classic training.
After "MMA" became popular most gyms offered no gi (non classical) because that's what competition deemed. Very different moves with the gi on. Life B Ez can comment here as he's a certified instructor. *note* he does like to hit on his students. *correction* female students :)

Conditioning is part of the warm up and rolling.

Some have studied other artforms before entering into the gyms. It may or may not help. IE: Karate + Tae Kwon Do kicks are completely different from Muay Thai dead leg kicks.

So focus on those two. You'll be set to go.

Oh don't worry about sparring til a year or two from now. Don't even bother. Learn the techniques first, footwork that goes along with the striking, defense (parry,counters), and then combinations.

Peeps in the gym asked me to spar with the pros, but I graciously declined cuz I'm not a hot shot and I've seen our own instructor get obliterated by one of the fighters...so I was like hmm...that's not good. So just spar with peeps your own level otherwise you will GET KTFO.

So you think just focus on BJJ and Muay thai for now? That sounds pretty good to me!

No_Mercy 02-15-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Withers (Post 1802906)
So you think just focus on BJJ and Muay thai for now? That sounds pretty good to me!

More than 50% of the gyms if not more focus on those two. Look at the gyms from USA, Brazil, Thailand, Australia, Europe, and Asia. Actually with the exception of Asia all you'll see is those two artforms other than speciality gyms.

BJJ is fun, but not for the first six months. Why...cuz you're going to get submitted left and right. But don't fight it...cuz that's how people get injured. If you're in a bad position just tap so you can learn then understand the counters.

You're gonna have your hands full with these two classes. I'll see you in about five years when you turn pro.

Withers 02-15-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by No_Mercy (Post 1802914)
More than 50% of the gyms if not more focus on those two. Look at the gyms from USA, Brazil, Thailand, Australia, Europe, and Asia. Actually with the exception of Asia all you'll see is those two artforms other than speciality gyms.

BJJ is fun, but not for the first six months. Why...cuz you're going to get submitted left and right. But don't fight it...cuz that's how people get injured. If you're in a bad position just tap so you can learn then understand the counters.

You're gonna have your hands full with these two classes. I'll see you in about five years when you turn pro.

I appreciate your help, sir! I'll start with MT and BJJ! I know that training at home isn't nearly as effective as training with a licensed professional, but should I be practicing at home as well?

No_Mercy 02-15-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Withers (Post 1802930)
I appreciate your help, sir! I'll start with MT and BJJ! I know that training at home isn't nearly as effective as training with a licensed professional, but should I be practicing at home as well?

Oh yah...shadow boxing and just working on the technique. I think most of us do it all the time. As for BJJ that's a bit tougher.

btw: You should check out some of the other forum threads on here.

Life B Ez 02-15-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by No_Mercy (Post 1802986)
Oh yah...shadow boxing and just working on the technique. I think most of us do it all the time. As for BJJ that's a bit tougher.

btw: You should check out some of the other forum threads on here.

I catch myself doing that all the time. Whenever I'm standing around not really doing anything I just start working footwork and what not.

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Withers 02-15-2013 10:18 PM

thanks for all the help guys! got submitted literally every time we rolled today as I had no idea what I was doing, but that's alright lol.


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