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Peanuthead55 09-11-2011 09:59 PM

can u explain weight classes please
 
I dont understand the weight class stuff. I just watched a video where gsp said tiago alves was 205lbs when he fought him. I thought 170lb devision was supposed to be 170 give or take a lb or two. I know im obviously a noob.

Can someone explain this to me?

Fieos 09-11-2011 10:03 PM

Fighters dehydrate themselves to make the maximum weight requirement for their class. Afterwards (fight is the next night) they rehydrate and this can generally add 10-20lbs back on a fighter in that weight class.

Intermission 09-11-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanuthead55 (Post 1470265)
I dont understand the weight class stuff. I just watched a video where gsp said tiago alves was 205lbs when he fought him. I thought 170lb devision was supposed to be 170 give or take a lb or two. I know im obviously a noob.

Can someone explain this to me?

You don't walk around at the weight you fight at. Have you ever heard of a "weight cut"? Basically fighters walk around 15-20 lbs over what they fight at and the week before their fight they sweat off the weight. Immediately after weight ins they put the weight back on and fight at their regular weight.

Let me give you a situation...

If I walk around at 155 and I want to fight at 135. I will cut the weight to make the limit and then rehydrate myself.

Now before you ask if that's unfair or whatever, you should just know that the more weight you cut, the more depleted and drained you will be fight night. Anthony Johnson walks around at 220 and fights a WW.

John8204 09-11-2011 10:08 PM

All fighters cut weight the weight classes are

HW - 265
LHW - 205
MW - 185
WW - 170
LW - 155
FW - 145
BW - 135

Some fighters have huge cuts, Anthony Johnson goes from LHW to WW, Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem likely go from 290/280 to 265. The cut's are basically just water weight.

Peanuthead55 09-11-2011 10:09 PM

hmm
 
so at the weigh in's they MUST MAKE EXACT WEIGHT? or give or take a few lbs?

Intermission 09-11-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanuthead55 (Post 1470270)
so at the weigh in's they MUST MAKE EXACT WEIGHT? or give or take a few lbs?

Your allowed one pound over and under. If at LW your allowed to be 156, 155, 154.

Peanuthead55 09-11-2011 10:14 PM

hmm
 
So why dont they just fight at what weight they naturally are without cutting? i mean isnt cutting alot of water weight taxing on the body...

If i walked around normally at 170 , why would i fight at 155 and cut weight, instead of fighting at 170?


AM i missing something...


P.s. thanks for all the responses.

Hammerlock2.0 09-11-2011 10:17 PM

Fighters don't usually fight at their natural weight. Most of them cut weight to be able to fight at a lower weight class. The weight they cut is not (usually) fat but water because it goes faster and you can get it all back in a day or two. They basically get dehydrated. Forrest Griffin is said to walk around at 240lbs but he fights at 205lbs so let's say he cuts 35lbs of water by saunaing (and/or other measures) and weighs in at 205lbs. Then the process of re-hydration begins, so what they basically do is start drinking again (not sure if IVs are legal but that would be another possibility). By the next day (fight day) he could theoretically be totally re-hydrated and in fact weigh more than 205lbs.

Fighters do it to gain a size advantage over other guys. Obviously nobody wants to give up that advantage so everybody does it (with few exceptions, most Japanese fighters don't cut much weight). There are extreme cases like Anthony Johnson who fights at 170 but looks as big as any 205er.

There are also negative side-effects. Obviously dehydration isn't a good thing for your body, especially for your kidneys. Losing so much water can be hard on your body and sitting in a sauna doesn't help much. In fact sitting in a sauna in counter indicated when you're already suffering from dehydration.

Intermission 09-11-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanuthead55 (Post 1470272)
So why dont they just fight at what weight they naturally are without cutting? i mean isnt cutting alot of water weight taxing on the body...

If i walked around normally at 170 , why would i fight at 155 and cut weight, instead of fighting at 170?


AM i missing something...


P.s. thanks for all the responses.

Yes its extremely taxing on the liver and kidneys. And they do it for an advantage over their opponent.

Peanuthead55 09-11-2011 10:20 PM

hmm
 
seems dumb to me. maybe im just a noob. Why not just fight at what u actually are...lol...then u dont need to worry about taxing the liver/kidneys or going into the sauna.


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