What is the difference between bjj and wrestling? - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
MMA Newbie Section Who is the MW champion of the UFC ? How many rounds are there in a non-championship fight ? What is DREAM. ? New to MMA but afraid to ask " dumb " questions? This section is just for you!!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 12:17 AM Thread Starter
Amateur
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 133
                     
What is the difference between bjj and wrestling?

Also will it be too late to learn bjj when im around 18-20?
MCDOJO101 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 12:47 AM
Cupcake: Team Tate
 
LizaG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Milton Keynes, UK
Posts: 10,630
Blog Entries: 13
                     
no....just.......no!

LizaG is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 12:50 AM
LL
Cruz Control
 
LL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ocean Front Property in Arizona.
Posts: 9,159
                     

2013 VIP FFL Champion
THE DRAGON RIDES AGAIN - 12/20/14
Machida - Alves - Cruz - JDS - Weidman - Condit - Pettis - Edgar - Cowboy - Dodson - Okami
LL is offline  
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 12:54 AM
Cupcake: Team Tate
 
LizaG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Milton Keynes, UK
Posts: 10,630
Blog Entries: 13
                     
jeez.....the difference between wrestling.....and bjj?.........you really don't know?

LizaG is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 01:56 AM Thread Starter
Amateur
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 133
                     
All i know is that they both use grappling other than that. Idk.
MCDOJO101 is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 09:32 AM
 
Budhisten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 9,226
                     
Now let me Google that for you

Please remember to search for answers to your questions before you make a post about it... Search on Google and also on here, we have a lovely search-function at the top of the page


Budhisten is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 09:57 AM
Middleweight
 
KillerShark1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 2,806
                     
The distinction is getting slimmer and slimmer, only reason we have the distinction is because MMA is so new as a sport that most fighters coming into the sport come from a different fighting style background from before the time MMA even existed or at least evolved into its own discipline.

The truth is if you are to divide the 2 styles you have to watch them in there pure competitive format because once they are combined within an MMA octagon it becomes MMA grappling, hell even the wrestling style take downs are becoming more and more combined into the striking as the sport evolved and the end result is a completely different from or stand up from any other combat sport due to the need to both be set ready to defend or attack with the take down, so in effect what you are seeing is not boxing or kick boxing or muay thai, what you are seeing is fighters coming from these backgrounds and developing new and often unique forms of MMA style stand up, which is very broad depending on many factors from the size and physical aspects of the individual to past training or even in many cases the different camps where they train, different training partners and coaches, and most importantly what the individual is most at comfort with.

In a sense as the sport evolves we a seeing many individuals pick up unique styles as a result of the endless combos of different factors effecting the development of each individual, in a sense Martial Arts its self is evolving and its doing so around individual needs, skill sets and comfort zones, as oppose to the development of a set style that is supposed to work for everyone, hope that makes sense.

For a start a lot of Jujutsu is lost when you loose the Gi so what you are seeing is more resemblant of a submission style of wrestling with every non-Gi Sumbission from the Jujitsu library there at the disposal as well.

I suppose the main difference is Jujitsu more about transition from one position to another and counter transitions of positions where the end goal is to out remover your opponent on the ground until you have a solid position to lock in a match winning submission.

Where as wrestling is more about dominant power and imposing dominant position and keeping it locked down, except fighters in MMA break in and out of the lock down holds to create space and cause damage (i.e. GnP) which is mostly done in short blasts but again differs from the pure form of wrestling and becomes a new developed MMA skill set.

But the use of both intertwined is more what MMA is all about now, so singling out one from the other is becoming harder to define and pointless, since every fighter comes in with a almost unique skill set despite there base training which would have certainly been developed anyway to better suit the rules of the Octagon, so to some extent there is no exclusive styles that one fighter uses, they will without doubt train all popular styles and combine even if there unique styles does resemble one style stronger than another does not matter because its not pure wrestling or Jitsu that is ever used in the Octagon any more its always mix these days and to different levels of influence from one style to another.


KillerShark1985 is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
Amateur
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 133
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerShark1985 View Post
The distinction is getting slimmer and slimmer, only reason we have the distinction is because MMA is so new as a sport that most fighters coming into the sport come from a different fighting style background from before the time MMA even existed or at least evolved into its own discipline.

The truth is if you are to divide the 2 styles you have to watch them in there pure competitive format because once they are combined within an MMA octagon it becomes MMA grappling, hell even the wrestling style take downs are becoming more and more combined into the striking as the sport evolved and the end result is a completely different from or stand up from any other combat sport due to the need to both be set ready to defend or attack with the take down, so in effect what you are seeing is not boxing or kick boxing or muay thai, what you are seeing is fighters coming from these backgrounds and developing new and often unique forms of MMA style stand up, which is very broad depending on many factors from the size and physical aspects of the individual to past training or even in many cases the different camps where they train, different training partners and coaches, and most importantly what the individual is most at comfort with.

In a sense as the sport evolves we a seeing many individuals pick up unique styles as a result of the endless combos of different factors effecting the development of each individual, in a sense Martial Arts its self is evolving and its doing so around individual needs, skill sets and comfort zones, as oppose to the development of a set style that is supposed to work for everyone, hope that makes sense.

For a start a lot of Jujutsu is lost when you loose the Gi so what you are seeing is more resemblant of a submission style of wrestling with every non-Gi Sumbission from the Jujitsu library there at the disposal as well.

I suppose the main difference is Jujitsu more about transition from one position to another and counter transitions of positions where the end goal is to out remover your opponent on the ground until you have a solid position to lock in a match winning submission.

Where as wrestling is more about dominant power and imposing dominant position and keeping it locked down, except fighters in MMA break in and out of the lock down holds to create space and cause damage (i.e. GnP) which is mostly done in short blasts but again differs from the pure form of wrestling and becomes a new developed MMA skill set.

But the use of both intertwined is more what MMA is all about now, so singling out one from the other is becoming harder to define and pointless, since every fighter comes in with a almost unique skill set despite there base training which would have certainly been developed anyway to better suit the rules of the Octagon, so to some extent there is no exclusive styles that one fighter uses, they will without doubt train all popular styles and combine even if there unique styles does resemble one style stronger than another does not matter because its not pure wrestling or Jitsu that is ever used in the Octagon any more its always mix these days and to different levels of influence from one style to another.
So wrestling is more about positioning and jiu jitsu is more about joint locks and submissions?
MCDOJO101 is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 09:39 PM
....Omar Comin'
 
El Bresko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 4,797
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCDOJO101 View Post
So wrestling is more about positioning and jiu jitsu is more about joint locks and submissions?
yes this is true







El Bresko is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-08-2012, 09:44 PM Thread Starter
Amateur
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 133
                     
Then wouldn't wrestling be more dominant? I'm not saying it is , but let's say it's bjj vs wrestling. If wrestling gets the dominant position, how is bjj supposed to do submissions?
MCDOJO101 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome