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**Roflcopter** · 06-23-2012, 10:55 PM

So the first fight is between a UFC debutant and a middle tier fighter in the sport's third worst division...slightly behind FlyW and HW and it's a three round snoozer with an unknown winning in completely unimpressive fashion just because he had a bit of wrestling ability.

Then the second fight is Werdum knocking out a bum in about 3 minutes.

Then the next two fights...a literal co-main event on a FKING PPV are TUF finale fights....the same shit we've been getting for free for the last 7 years...and two guys that have never fought in the UFC and probably won't be title contenders down the road.

Then the main event is a scrap between one shot to shit fighter and another washed up fighter who lost his last fight in dominant fashion to another washed up LHW....

Nice.....I hope this does under 100k buys.

Literally. The sport deserves to can itself after this disgrace.

**Canadian Psycho** · 06-23-2012, 11:22 PM

It's not the greatest event ever. But I don't see why it deserves another long winded and overblown Roflcopter rant/thread.

Try not to let it ruin your day, slick. Turn it off. Simple really

**TheLyotoLegion** · 06-23-2012, 11:22 PM

Here's a solution....

DON'T WATCH IT.

**SideWays222** · 06-23-2012, 11:24 PM

Sure this card isnt that great but i didnt find the fights too bad so far. Especially the last one. And Franklin vs Wanderlei 1 was ******* great and i cant wait to see it again. Im a fan of Fights and not names. + i wanna see Rich win in convincing fashion so i can see Rich vs Chael in his retirement fight. So epic. ESPECIALLY since there is bad blood with Chael/Rich. The whole story was never released but i know Team Quest dislikes Rich and his camp.

Terror Kovenant · 06-23-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWays222

Sure this card isnt that great but i didnt find the fights too bad so far. Especially the last one. And Franklin vs Wanderlei 1 was ******* great and i cant wait to see it again. Im a fan of Fights and not names. + i wanna see Rich win in convincing fashion so i can see Rich vs Chael in his retirement fight. So epic. ESPECIALLY since there is bad blood with Chael/Rich. The whole story was never released but i know Team Quest dislikes Rich and his camp.

^ I have never heard of that ever.

And lol, Rich wasn't dominated by Forest. Forest sat on him and won by being significantly heavier.

**SideWays222** · 06-24-2012, 12:10 AM

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^ I have never heard of that ever.

And lol, Rich wasn't dominated by Forest. Forest sat on him and won by being significantly heavier.

Yeah Chael has made some comments about it throughout the years but im not sure if the full story was ever brought to light. Here is one comment i found doing a quick search

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"I challenged Rich for 18 months, and he never responded," said Sonnen. "I challenged Anderson Silva for four years and he ducked me every bit of the way. I challenged both of those guys and in the process I fought 12 guys in the Top 10, beat 10 of them, beat every champion in every organization there's ever been... I beat the Elite XC champion, I've beaten the Strikeforce champion, I beat Bodog's champion, I beat IFL's champion, I beat the WEC champion twice. I beat every champion in every company that's ever been, and there's not another middleweight living today that can make that claim, except for the UFC champion and the math teacher wouldn't fight me, and neither would the "Spider." But he's here now, and he's not here on his own free will. He's here because Uncle Dana made him do it."

But he has made other comments also. I think it was a camp vs camp thing and Matt Lindland was at the center of it but i dont know.

What Camp is Rich with btw??? For some reason the only person i know who trains with Rich is Jorge Gurgel lol.

Terror Kovenant · 06-24-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWays222

Yeah Chael has made some comments about it throughout the years but im not sure if the full story was ever brought to light. Here is one comment i found doing a quick search

"I challenged Rich for 18 months, and he never responded," said Sonnen. "I challenged Anderson Silva for four years and he ducked me every bit of the way. I challenged both of those guys and in the process I fought 12 guys in the Top 10, beat 10 of them, beat every champion in every organization there's ever been... I beat the Elite XC champion, I've beaten the Strikeforce champion, I beat Bodog's champion, I beat IFL's champion, I beat the WEC champion twice. I beat every champion in every company that's ever been, and there's not another middleweight living today that can make that claim, except for the UFC champion and the math teacher wouldn't fight me, and neither would the "Spider." But he's here now, and he's not here on his own free will. He's here because Uncle Dana made him do it."

But he has made other comments also. I think it was a camp vs camp thing and Matt Lindland was at the center of it but i dont know.

What Camp is Rich with btw??? For some reason the only person i know who trains with Rich is Jorge Gurgel lol.

Thats a little bit of Sonnen being Sonnen. When Rich was Champ, Sonnen lost his UFC debut. Then went 1-1 at MW. He was never in a position to challenge for Franklin's belt.

Rich isn't a with a camp and hasn't been for awhile. I believe he works his striking with Phil Nurse and has some other coaches. An elite camp is something thats been missing from his training for a long time now.

**SideWays222** · 06-24-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Terror Kovenant

Thats a little bit of Sonnen being Sonnen. When Rich was Champ, Sonnen lost his UFC debut. Then went 1-1 at MW. He was never in a position to challenge for Franklin's belt.

Rich isn't a with a camp and hasn't been for awhile. I believe he works his striking with Phil Nurse and has some other coaches. An elite camp is something thats been missing from his training for a long time now.

Yah i know. Thats why i pointed out that he has made some other comments too. It just isnt easy to search for articles that are years old. There is too many out there and with Rich Franklin fighting tonight thats mostly the what the search results will be about. But the beef is real. He has literally said he does not like Rich. Anyway i gotta go focus on the fight.