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post #61 of 109 (permalink) Old 04-16-2007, 09:17 PM
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we obviously agree on the major issues...
and really, the small difference we share are exactly that... just minor differences...

I made the last statement because everyone seems to think Chuck can throw with CC... but if that is the case, then they must think Chuck can throw with Fedor... and that is *definitely* not the case... especially, like you and I agree, since they are in different weight classes.

I think CC is as 'all-round' as you can get...
He cant be a specialist in *everything*... I dont think any mma fighter can...
You specialize in one respect and get good enuf to shut-down any attempts to change your winning game plan... ie. Hughes, Chuck

I think this is where CC sits in the grand scheme of things... he's the best striker in his weightclass and can shutdown attempts to change his gameplan.

BTW... I agree with you, I dont count Randy out... I didnt before the Tim bout and I dont now... I think Randy DOES stand a chance with CC... but he is the definite underdog.

... and with the way things have been going lately, who knows
who says this about chuck lol.......no doubt i like chuck his a sick and unorthadox fighter.....who generally makes an effort to entertain the fans by deliberately prolonging fights......but to those who put him and cc on the same level while all the while including fedor.....lets be honest here apple to oranges.....different class, different style the end.....

i agree with ur hughes and chuck comment
even tho i hate hughes that cocky country boi.....

i agree with the best striker in his class.....but like i said earlier when he gets lazy he puts his hands down....hes fast....but when you guys 220 plus one hit can decide the fight......

although im rooting for cro cop because like i said i wanna see a fedor vs cro cop rematch.......it would be cool to see randy "the underdog" win another unbelievable fight

whoohooo free pay per view this week
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post #62 of 109 (permalink) Old 04-16-2007, 09:54 PM
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It's been well documented on this forum that in my opinion Ken Shamrock is the most overrated fighter of all time.. but what is it about this Cro Cop guy that makes him so great?

Sure he has pretty good KO power.. but there's more to MMA then how hard you can kick someone in the head. I'v studied tapes of his fights from Pride over the years and there's no way he's gonna be able to dominate the superior fighters of the UFC the way he did in Japan. His ground game is terrible, and from what i'v seen he has a terrible chin too. Even the first fighter he fought in the UFC said his kicks didnt hurt as bad as they make them out to be.. i guaruntee you he wouldnt be able to last a round if he got thrown into the octagon with Chuck. If he fights Randy, he'll get submitted in 2 rounds. You can quote me on that too.
Every thread/post you make is quite biased. You think the UFC is so great, when you have hardly had any exposure to PRIDE FC. Quite frankly I think you should stop posting until you get some more MMA knowledge because you are makeing yourself look like an idiot.

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post #63 of 109 (permalink) Old 04-16-2007, 09:58 PM
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simon pheniox all your threads are soo stupid i am offended to here u think ken is the most overrated fighter ever. and cc. he is the only guy that is in the same league as fedor. How can he be over rated.... u shold sstop coming here


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simon pheniox all your threads are soo stupid i am offended to here u think ken is the most overrated fighter ever. and cc. he is the only guy that is in the same league as fedor. How can he be over rated.... u shold sstop coming here
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There are two or three fighters in the HW division that are in the same league with Fedor, CC is one of them.

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It would be easy to say that this thread doesn't stand for much but there have been other posters in here who have agreed with Simon - and I'm kind of surprised.

At the very least, Simon gave his reasons (as hollow as they were), but to the others who agreed with SP, do you have more prominent reasons as to why you think Crop Cop is overrated?

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There are two or three fighters in the HW division that are in the same league with Fedor, CC is one of them.
Nobody is on Fedors level yet. True cro cop is getting there and probably is the closest to him but, nobody is there yet.
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I am just saying he's defeatable by Pride or UFC Fighters. It just seems Pride fans think he's undefeatable and no one in the UFC can touch him(because in their ignorance they think UFC Fighters are below them for some stupid reason) and I don't believe anyone is undefeatable. He's a great fighter and not arguing that, just saying he isn't an undefeatable guy that will walk through everyone in the UFC and I give Randy a very good chance if CC gets past Gonzaga. I do like watching him fight in Pride or UFC.
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A teenage boy is about all I can think of that is faster than Cro Cop's LHK. You know it's coming, his opponent knows it's coming, and as soon as the right hand cheats a bit to block it you get straight left fist flying straight at your head...with authority and accuracy. So long as you can deal with that Cro Cop is beatable.
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No Pride fans think that Cro Cop is unbeatable. Pride was where Fedor beat him twice and randelman knocked him out. UFC was the organazation that hyped him up to be ubeatable when they signed him to fight.
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